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Jesse Michels's book recommendations
Jesse Michels appears on The Joe Rogan Experience to explore fringe historical narratives, unconventional science, and paradigm-shifting ideas. Throughout the conversation, Michels recommends and discusses several books that challenge conventional dogmas and orthodox histories. He highlights Robert Hastings's extensive work UFOs and Nukes, praising its compilation of eyewitness testimony from over one hundred security personnel and radar operators regarding unidentified aerial phenomena at nuclear installations. Turning to science fiction and the evolution of scientific thought, Michels recommends Cixin Liu's acclaimed novel The Three-Body Problem, noting its narrative integration of state control over scientific advancement, and Samuel Arbesman's The Half-Life of Facts, which illustrates how a significant portion of established human knowledge eventually becomes outdated. Michels also discusses Ingo Swann's controversial book Penetration, detailing its claims regarding remote viewing an extraterrestrial base on the moon, and touches upon Karl Marx's early writings in the Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844 while expressing skepticism toward Marx's assumptions about human nature. Additionally, he touches upon the conspiracy-themed writings of William Cooper in Behold a Pale Horse, rounding out a wide-ranging exploration of anomalous phenomena, unorthodox history, and speculative science.
Books Jesse Michels recommends
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UFOs and Nukes
Recommended“there's a great book by a guy named Robert Hastings called UFOs and nukes and it's like 600 pages and it is 167 Qcle cleared ICBM security personnel, radar operators, employees at nuclear bases”
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The Half-Life of Facts
Recommended“there's a great book called The Half-Life of Facts by Sam Arbisman. And he talks about how like at any given time 50% of you know received knowledge like our our physical model of the universe is wrong.”
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The Three-Body Problem
The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu is a landmark work of contemporary Chinese science fiction that explores humanity's first contact with an alien civilization and the complex sociopolitical ramifications of that discovery.
Recommended“And like I don't know if you've read there's a um great uh Chinese science fiction novel called The Three Body Problem. Great show on Netflix, too. It's amazing.”
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Behold a Pale Horse
Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper is a notorious conspiracy theory manifesto that weaves together secret societies, extraterrestrial cover-ups, and alleged government plots.
Discussed“He's writing weird like disinfoy style stuff with Bill Cooper. Behold the pale horse guy, which is a wild book. Which is a wild book.”
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Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844
Discussed“In 1844 I believe he wrote a book um called you know is e economic and philosophic manuscripts. I hate Karl Marx. I think he got so much wrong about human nature.”
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Messengers of Deception
Discussed“in Messengers of Deception, Jacques Valle's book, he talks about because he's not a believer in Lazar. He talks about Lazar being forced to drink a liquid.”
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Penetration
Discussed“Engo Swan who is another remote viewer in the Stargate program. He wrote a book called Penetration where he's basically like abducted by this guy in a suit like this kind of Men in Black style guy named Axel Rod and he is told to remote view the moon”
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Pre-capitalist economic formations
Discussed“In 1844 I believe he wrote a book um called you know is e economic and philosophic manuscripts. I hate Karl Marx. I think he got so much wrong about human nature.”
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The Invisible College
Discussed“In chapter nine of the invisible college by Jacqu Valet, he talks about the UFOs being this sort of autonomous control system and when we you know it's like a node lights up like when we engage in super advanced research or something.”
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Appearances
| Episode | Podcast | Date | Books |
|---|---|---|---|
| #2331 - Jesse Michels | The Joe Rogan Experience | 2025-06-03 | 10 |
Other mentions (6: passing, ad reads, own books)
“Cherries of the Gods. No, when I was at Peter Teal's house when Von Dan that must have been 2018, 2019.”
“And Lambda had quoted like Miser Le Miserab to him and was talking about Fantine and her overlords and how she was oppressed or whatever. And it was almost like this like the AI was oppressed just like this character in layer hub.”
“Actually Karl Marx wrote two books. Um you know he wrote uh uh obviously the communist manifesto in 1848.”
“You have angels and demons, you know, that's kind of the passport to Meonia, Dina, American cosmic thesis. Like this stuff has been going on forever.”
“You have angels and demons, you know, that's kind of the passport to Meonia, Dina, American cosmic thesis. Like this stuff has been going on forever.”
“He talks about DMT as like night vision or like like it's like a it's like goggles or a window, you know, it's like Aldis Huxley, the doors of your perception.”