Episode · The Joe Rogan Experience · 2025-06-03
Joe Rogan & Jesse Michels: books mentioned on The Joe Rogan Experience #2331
#2331 - Jesse Michels
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Jesse Michels recommended UFOs and Nukes by Robert L. Hastings, The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu, The Half-Life of Facts by Samuel Arbesman, and The Book of Sam by Sam Johnston, and discussed The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and others, Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844 by Karl Marx, Pre-capitalist economic formations by Karl Marx, Penetration by Ingo Swann and others, Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper, The Invisible College by Jacques Vallee, Messengers of Deception by Jacques Vallee, A New New Testament by Hal Taussig, DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman, and The doors of perception by Aldous Huxley.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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The Communist Manifesto
Discussed“Actually Karl Marx wrote two books. Um you know he wrote uh uh obviously the communist manifesto in 1848.”
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Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844
Discussed“In 1844 I believe he wrote a book um called you know is e economic and philosophic manuscripts. I hate Karl Marx.”
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Pre-capitalist economic formations
Discussed“In 1844 I believe he wrote a book um called you know is e economic and philosophic manuscripts. I hate Karl Marx. I think he got so much wrong about human nature.”
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Penetration
Discussed“Engo Swan who is another remote viewer in the Stargate program. He wrote a book called Penetration where he's basically like abducted by this guy in a suit like this kind of Men in Black style guy named Axel Rod and he is told to remote view the moon”
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Behold a Pale Horse
Discussed“He's writing weird like disinfoy style stuff with Bill Cooper. Behold the pale horse guy, which is a wild book. Which is a wild book.”
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UFOs and Nukes
Recommended“there's a great book by a guy named Robert Hastings called UFOs and nukes and it's like 600 pages and it is 167 Qcle cleared ICBM security personnel, radar operators, employees at nuclear bases”
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The Invisible College
Discussed“In chapter nine of the invisible college by Jacqu Valet, he talks about the UFOs being this sort of autonomous control system and when we you know it's like a node lights up like when we engage in super advanced research or something.”
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Messengers of Deception
Discussed“in Messengers of Deception, Jacques Valle's book, he talks about because he's not a believer in Lazar. He talks about Lazar being forced to drink a liquid.”
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The Three-Body Problem
Recommended“And like I don't know if you've read there's a um great uh Chinese science fiction novel called The Three Body Problem. Great show on Netflix, too. It's amazing.”
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The Half-Life of Facts
Recommended“there's a great book called The Half-Life of Facts by Sam Arbisman. And he talks about how like at any given time 50% of you know received knowledge like our our physical model of the universe is wrong.”
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The Book of Sam
Recommended“But also look at there's a great book called The Half-Life of Facts by Sam Arbisman. And he talks about how like at any given time 50% of you know received knowledge like our our physical model of the universe is wrong.”
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A New New Testament
Discussed“If you look at every culture, whether it's or or maybe a better example is medieval Christianity with St. Thomas Aquinas or just read the New Testament like a multitude of angels.”
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DMT: The Spirit Molecule
Discussed“And you've had Rick Straman on. He talks, you know, DMT, the spirit molecule. He talks about DMT as like night vision or like like it's like a it's like goggles or a window, you know, it's like Aldis Huxley, the doors of your perception.”
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The doors of perception
Discussed“He talks, you know, DMT, the spirit molecule. He talks about DMT as like night vision or like like it's like a it's like goggles or a window, you know, it's like Aldis Huxley, the doors of your perception.”
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Other mentions in this episode (6) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“Cherries of the Gods. No, when I was at Peter Teal's house when Von Dan that must have been 2018, 2019.”
“That was 17. Uh Cherries of the Gods. No, when I was at Peter Teal's house when Von Dan that must have been 2018, 2019.”
“And Lambda had quoted like Miser Le Miserab to him and was talking about Fantine and her overlords and how she was oppressed or whatever. And it was almost like this like the AI was oppressed just like this character in layer hub.”
“You have angels and demons, you know, that's kind of the passport to Meonia, Dina, American cosmic thesis. Like this stuff has been going on forever.”
“You have angels and demons, you know, that's kind of the passport to Meonia, Dina, American cosmic thesis. Like this stuff has been going on forever.”
“He talks about DMT as like night vision or like like it's like a it's like goggles or a window, you know, it's like Aldis Huxley, the doors of your perception.”












