Episode · The Joe Rogan Experience · 2026-08-25
Books mentioned on #2545 - Jesse Michels
Jesse Michels is the creator and host of "American Alchemy," a YouTube series exploring controversial topics in science and culture through longform interviews.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Childhood's End
Arthur C.
Recommended“There's a great book by the great Arthur C. Clark called Childhood's End.He talks about um aliens sort of incepting the world through telepathic children.”
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The sacred mushroom and the cross
The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross by John Marco Allegro is a controversial historical study that proposes Christianity and ancient religious rituals originated from fertility cults centered around the sacramental use of psychedelic mushrooms.
Discussed“And then there's the uh John Marco Allegro, the guy who wrote uh the sacred mushroom in the cross, the the guy who was on the Dead Sea Scrolls Commission, who was an ordained minister, but also was agnostic.And after 14 years of deciphering the Dead Sea Scrolls, he's like, I think [laughter] this is all about fertility rituals and”
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What Is Real?
Discussed“There's a great book called What is Real by a guy named Adam Becker about all of this where Einstein was saying the quantum stuff is too spooky as they call it spooky action at a distance.”
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Life Itself
Discussed“So in 1973 I believe Francis Crick who discovered the double helical structure of DNA uh wrote a paper and then he followed it up with a book in 1981 called life itself and it's all about how DNA in a 100 million years it's too short of a period of time for it to have formed on Earth.”
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Hell's Angels
Hunter S.
Recommended“Did you ever read Hell's Angels?No.It's really great.It's uh one of I think it's Hunter's breakout book and it was before like it was very clear that he was sort of blurring the lines between fiction and reality like with literature like a literary license.”
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