Episode · The Ezra Klein Show · 2023-02-21

Books mentioned on This Book Changed My Relationship to Pain

4 books · With Rachel Zofness · Watch on YouTube

Ezra Klein recommended The Pain Management Workbook by Rachel Zoffness. Rachel Zofness recommended Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers by Robert M. Sapolsky, The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, and Pain by Patrick David Wall.

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

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  1. The Pain Management Workbook

    Rachel Zoffness · at 2:04

    The Pain Management Workbook by Rachel Zoffness is a comprehensive guide utilizing cognitive behavioral therapy and science-backed strategies to help individuals cope with persistent physical discomfort.

    Recommended
    “and she's the author of The Pain Management workbook which I would recommend to anybody dealing with chronic pain”
    Where to get it
  2. Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers

    Robert M. Sapolsky · at 1:01:54

    Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers by Robert M. Sapolsky is a renowned scientific exploration of stress, physiology, and how the human body reacts to psychological pressure compared to other animals.

    Recommended
    “one is why zebras don't get ulcers by Robert sapolsky”
    Where to get it
  3. The Body Keeps the Score

    Bessel van der Kolk · at 1:02:15

    The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk is a deep exploration of how trauma physically impacts the brain and body.

    Recommended
    “the other book is the body keeps the score Bessel vanderkle”
    Where to get it
  4. Pain

    Patrick David Wall · at 1:02:41

    Pain by Patrick David Wall is a scientific exploration of the mechanisms of suffering and how the human nervous system processes physical distress.

    Recommended
    “and the third book is going to be pain the science of suffering which is by Patrick Wall”
    Where to get it