Episode · All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · 2025-04-11
Books mentioned on The Great Tariff Debate with David Sacks, Larry Summers, and Ezra Klein
(0:00) Bestie intros! (0:58) Reacting to Trump targeting China and postponing all other reciprocal tariffs (21:21) Measures for success of tariffs, debating the impact of letting China into the WTO (46:14) Is the US being exploited on trade?
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Abundance
Abundance by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson is a widely debated economic manifesto that challenges progressives to embrace state-level capacity, economic growth, and structural building.
Discussed“He's got a new book with Derek Thompson, Abundance, and he co-founded Vox in 2014, and he's our guest here today before Trump ships him to El Salvador.”
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The End of History and the Last Man
The End of History and the Last Man by Francis Fukuyama is a prominent political science book published in 1992 that argues the worldwide adoption of liberal democracy and free-market capitalism might mark the endpoint of humanity's ideological evolution.
Discussed“I mean, look, cuz cuz what happened is I mean, just to uplevel this for a second is that you you had Fukuyama write the end of history, which basically said that democratic capitalism is the end- all beall and we're basically down to one system and the whole world's going to run on that system.”

