Episode · Modern Wisdom · 2025-11-15
Chris Williamson & Jessica Baum: books mentioned on Modern Wisdom #1020
Why We Fall for the Wrong People - Jessica Baum - #1020
Jessica Baum is a psychotherapist, relationship expert, and author. What does it actually take to feel safe in a relationship?
Jessica Baum discussed The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk. Chris Williamson discussed Safe by Jessica Baum.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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The Body Keeps the Score
The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk is a comprehensive exploration of how trauma physically impacts the human mind and body.
Discussed“think the body keeps the score. That if you don't want to call it your inner child, we still need to start to look at how memory systems work in your body and how that your memory system is constantly speaking to you.”
Where to get it
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Safe
Safe by Jessica Baum is a relationship and attachment guide designed to help individuals understand their interpersonal patterns, heal emotional wounds, and navigate the challenges of finding secure connections.
Discussed“Where does somebody start beyond buying the book Safe by Jessica Bal? Where does where does somebody start practically with moving through this?”
Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
Plugged Safe
“It's funny because my book is like safe, an attachment informed guide to building more secure relationships and coming home to yourself and others. And there's a part in the book where I talk about hugging my partner and feeling like I was home.”