Episode · The Ezra Klein Show · 2025-07-08

Books mentioned on How The Attention Economy is Devouring Gen Z | The Ezra Klein Show

4 books · With Kyla Scanland · Watch on YouTube

Ezra Klein discussed Seeing Like a State by James C. Scott and The Screwtape Letters by C. S. Lewis. Kyla Scanlon recommended A Grief Observed by C.S. Lewis and Jonathan Livingston Seagull by Richard Bach.

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

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  1. Seeing Like a State

    James C. Scott · at 34:47

    Seeing Like a State by James C.

    Discussed
    “You know the old book James Scott seeing like a state, right? That the state has to make things legible to itself.”
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  2. The Screwtape Letters

    C. S. Lewis · at 50:57

    The Screwtape Letters by C.S.

    Discussed
    “You have a great piece or I thought it was a great piece on the Screw Tape Letters. Best book, which is Well, why don't you describe what that book is for people who have not heard of it?”
    Where to get it
  3. A Grief Observed

    C.S. Lewis · at 1:04:20

    A Grief Observed by C.S.

    Recommended
    “and then I'd also recommend a grief observed which is by him also um it's like a really nice read on grief cuz grief can feel very lonely when you're going through it”
    Where to get it
  4. Jonathan Livingston Seagull

    Richard Bach · at 1:04:50

    Jonathan Livingston Seagull by Richard Bach is an allegorical novella about a seagull learning about flight, self-perfection, and breaking free from the rigid conformity of his flock.

    Recommended
    “And my last book recommendation is Jonathan Livingston Seagull by Richard Bach, which is about this seagull that you know, everyone's like, you're never going to be able to fly that far.”
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