Episode · Huberman Lab · 2025-06-02
Books mentioned on Healing From Grief & Loss | Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor
My guest is Dr. Mary-Frances O’Connor, PhD, Professor of Clinical Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Arizona and a world expert on the science of grief and loss.
Andrew Huberman discussed The Ghost by Jefferson Morley, The Secret Pulse of Time by Stefan Klein, and The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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The Ghost
Discussed“And you know it's uh difficult to decide whether or not movies like Ghost um I think that was the movie, right? Where she loses her spouse or a loved one.”
Where to get it
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The Secret Pulse of Time
The Secret Pulse of Time by Stefan Klein is an engaging exploration of human time perception, examining how the mind experiences, distorts, and measures the passage of time.
Discussed“And I've been motivated to read there's a wonderful book the secret pulse of time that talks about this somewhat.”
Where to get it
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The Denial of Death
The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker is a Pulitzer Prize-winning philosophical and psychological study that argues human behavior is fundamentally driven by an unconscious terror of mortality and the subsequent cultural mechanisms created to deny it.
Discussed“Um you know if you read uh the denial of death you learn about this.”
Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (2) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“You know, I will say that in in the book that I wrote recently, The Grieving Body, some of these lessons have come to me because I have multiple sclerosis.”
“For those of you that haven't heard, I have a new book coming out. It's my very first book. It's entitled Protocols: An Operating Manual for the Human Body.”


