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Every book Melissa Perri recommended on podcasts
Key facts
- Melissa Perri has recommended or discussed 2 books on podcasts, as of November 16, 2023.
- Melissa Perri has talked about books on 1 podcast, as of November 16, 2023.
- Those books came up in 1 episode, as of November 16, 2023.
- The 2 books Melissa Perri has mentioned in the most episodes, as of November 16, 2023: Escaping the Build Trap and Product Operations.
- The latest episode with a book mention from Melissa Perri aired on November 16, 2023.
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Melissa Perri appeared on Lenny's Podcast to discuss product operations and share insights from her own writing and professional background. During the episode, she spoke about her book Escaping the Build Trap, explaining that she had written about product operations in it after encountering the need for that approach while working at Athenahealth, where she saw it as a significant issue that required attention. She also discussed Product Operations, which she co-authored with Denise Tilles, detailing how the book structured the concept around three distinct pillars. Specifically, she noted that business and data insights form the quantitative side of this framework, ensuring that product managers have access to engagement and revenue inputs necessary for making smart decisions. Throughout the podcast conversation, Perri emphasized the practical applications of these principles within software companies and product management roles, illustrating her points with examples from her corporate experience and her published works on building effective product organizations.
Books Melissa Perri recommended or discussed
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Escaping the Build Trap
Discussed“And I know when I wrote my first book, Escaping the Build Trap, in 2018, I mentioned it in there cuz we had just started doing it at Athenahealth. And I saw this as like a really big issue”
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Product Operations
Discussed“The way we think about it is is kind of structured around the three pillars that we talk about in the book. So, business and data insights more of the quantitative side, making sure that the product manager has, you know, all of these sort of engagement and revenue inputs to make smart decisions.”
Where to get it
Books Melissa Perri wrote
Appearances
| Episode | Podcast | Date | Books |
|---|---|---|---|
| The ultimate guide to product operations | Melissa Perri and Denise Tilles | Lenny's Podcast | 2023-11-16 | 3 |
Other mentions (7: passing, ad reads, own books)
“and in escaping the build trap I talk a lot about how we use scrum when I started working with this team in a startup and it was the first time I ever heard of it”
“And that's what got us to start writing this book. And since then I've seen a lot more companies coming out and either making more mature product operations teams that started probably before that or actually introducing them now.”
“We say to like like get started with one person. Like we we we describe these three pillars and, you know, repeatedly through the book we're like, "Hone in on what's the most important part for you that's going to help you right now that we talked through."”
“They actually kept the product ops team. So, now Tim Davenport oversees product ops team. He was a chief of staff for the chief product officer at the time and he's been building it again, uh you know, taking it taking the stuff that worked and then building on to it and they're actually one of our key studies in”
“What are two or three books you've recommended most to other people? I'll take that. Uh of course, Escaping the Build Trap.”
“So, definitely reach out and let us know about it. Also, you can help us by buying the book and leaving us an Amazon review if you do read it cuz that does help authors. And we self-published this one, too”
“i am writing another book called product operations after writing escaping the bill trap i thought i would never write again but it's time you know you know that feeling so i'm excited about that”

