Episode · The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast · 2026-10-25

Books mentioned on Why Your Marriage Feels Like A Prison Instead Of An Adventure

4 books · With Jonathan Pageau, Tammy Peterson · Listen · Watch on YouTube

What does it mean to actually live your life, not just survive it? In this lecture, Dr.

Jordan Peterson discussed Maps of Meaning by Jordan B. Peterson, Notes from Underground by Fyodor Dostoevsky, and Exodus by Leon Uris. Jonathan Pageau discussed Revelation by Drew Karpyshyn and others.

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

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  1. Maps of Meaning

    Jordan B. Peterson · at 0:28 · mentioned 3 times

    Maps of Meaning by Jordan B.

    Discussed
    “I did some at McGill when I was there in Montreal beforehand, but I did a lot of the work that culminated in this book, Maps of Meaning, very academic book. One that was probably really in some ways mostly written for me”
    Where to get it
  2. Notes from Underground

    Fyodor Dostoevsky · at 29:36

    Notes from Underground by Fyodor Dostoevsky is a profound psychological novella that explores the tormented inner life, resentment, and irrational impulses of an isolated protagonist living in nineteenth-century Russia.

    Discussed
    “Well, DSki tried to work through that problem very early on in the mid to late 1800s. He was a very astute critic of the socialist utopian dreams of that time which are very much like the same dreams in modern time. And he wrote about this in a book called Notes from Underground”
    Where to get it
  3. Revelation

    Drew Karpyshyn; David Colacci · at 1:22:51

    Revelation by Drew Karpyshyn and David Colacci is a gripping science fiction novel set within expansive fictional universes.

    Discussed
    “I I want to say one last thing about because there was this image that came to me also while Jordan was talking. There's a there's a verse in Revelation Revelation 2 where Christ says to those who are victorious will be given to parti to receive the secret mana right the secret mana the bread from heaven”
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  4. Exodus

    Leon Uris · at 1:36:18 · mentioned 2 times

    Exodus by Leon Uris is a historical novel detailing the founding of the State of Israel and the events leading up to it.

    Discussed
    “Well, so one of the things you see, for example, in this Exodus story is that the temptation of Moses who's a leader. He's the archetypal leader. He's the person who archetypally leads his people from slavery.”
    Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (8) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
Passing 12 Rules for Life
“And that resulted in two books that were quite popular, 12 rules for life and an antidote to chaos. And then Beyond Order, 12 More Rules for Life.”
Passing Jordan B. Peterson's Best Selling 2-Book Set (12 Rules for Life: an Antidote to Chaos & Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life)
“And that resulted in two books that were quite popular, 12 rules for life and an antidote to chaos. And then Beyond Order, 12 More Rules for Life.”
Plugged We Who Wrestle with God
“And now I have a fourth book which I sent off to the publisher in its more or less finished form two weeks ago, which is We Who Wrestle with God. And all of these books are attempts to address what I think of as the fundamental issue of our time.”
Plugged We Who Wrestle with God
“I was and it was something I hypothesized in Maps of Meaning the book I made reference to and it's been a predicate of my work ever since certainly a predicate of this new book we who wrestle with God is that a story is a description of our identity.”
Passing 12 Rules for Life
“Let's say we who wrestle with God in in my books in maps of meaning in 12 rules for life and beyond order and in the current book I spent a lot of time assessing stories and also telling them and trying to understand what they signify.”
Plugged We Who Wrestle with God
“Let's say we who wrestle with God in in my books in maps of meaning in 12 rules for life and beyond order and in the current book I spent a lot of time assessing stories and also telling them and trying to understand what they signify.”
Passing Jordan B. Peterson's Best Selling 2-Book Set (12 Rules for Life: an Antidote to Chaos & Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life)
“Let's say we who wrestle with God in in my books in maps of meaning in 12 rules for life and beyond order and in the current book I spent a lot of time assessing stories and also telling them and trying to understand what they signify.”
Passing Pinocchio
“That's what Pinocchio does when he wishes upon a star, that's the thing that moves him towards away from being a marionette that's the puppet of other of forces beyond his control to being something that's truly autonomous and real.”