Episode · Lenny's Podcast · 2026-07-19

Lenny Rachitsky & Elizabeth Stone: books mentioned on Lenny's Podcast

Why Netflix is betting on systems thinkers—not specialists—in the AI era | Elizabeth Stone (CPTO)

2 books · With Elizabeth Stone · Listen · Watch on YouTube

Elizabeth Stone is the Chief Product and Technology Officer (CPTO) at Netflix, where she oversees Engineering, Product, and Design.

Elizabeth Stone recommended Into Thin Air by Jon Krakauer and Liar's Poker by Michael Lewis.

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

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  1. Into Thin Air

    Jon Krakauer · at 1:08:10

    Into Thin Air by Jon Krakauer is a gripping non-fiction account of the disastrous 1996 Mount Everest expedition that claimed several lives.

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    “So, two that are coming to my mind Into Thin Air, Jon Krakauer, and Liar's Poker, Michael Lewis. So, I I worked on Wall Street and I like reminding people what it was like in the way back time.”
    Where to get it
  2. Liar's Poker

    Michael Lewis · at 1:08:10

    Liar's Poker by Michael Lewis is a semi-autobiographical, breakout account of the author's chaotic experiences working as a bond salesman on Wall Street during the reckless financial boom of the 1980s.

    Recommended
    “So, two that are coming to my mind Into Thin Air, Jon Krakauer, and Liar's Poker, Michael Lewis. So, I I worked on Wall Street and I like reminding people what it was like in the way back time.”
    Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
Passing Thinking in Systems
“Like I think of this book that everyone always references with the slinky on the front, Thinking in Systems.”