Episode · Modern Wisdom · 2022-10-17
Books mentioned on What Is The Manosphere Getting Wrong? - Destiny - #540
Destiny is a streamer and a YouTuber. As the mainstream media abandons talking to anyone male in a reasonable manner, men's advice has been pushed underground.
Chris Williamson recommended Mate by Tucker Max and others, and discussed Daring Young Men by Richard Reeves, Of Boys and Men by Richard Reeves, and The Game by Neil Strauss.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Daring Young Men
Daring Young Men by Richard Reeves is a sociology and parenting book that examines the structural challenges, employment struggles, and educational disparities facing modern boys and men.
Discussed“disaffected only men that feel like um Society kind of doesn't want to talk to them anymore because they're toxic or they're horrible or they're abusers or they're rapists or you know it's an interesting blend of cultural and structural problems of this guy in the show called Richard Reeves he's written a book called of boys and men and”
Where to get it
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Of Boys and Men
Of Boys and Men by Richard Reeves is an insightful sociological examination of the modern challenges, educational struggles, and structural disadvantages currently facing boys and men.
Discussed“disaffected only men that feel like um Society kind of doesn't want to talk to them anymore because they're toxic or they're horrible or they're abusers or they're rapists or you know it's an interesting blend of cultural and structural problems of this guy in the show called Richard Reeves he's written a book called of boys and men and”
Where to get it
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The Game
The Game by Neil Strauss is a non-fiction book that investigates the secretive subculture of pickup artists and dating strategy.
Discussed“I think that first wave manosphere was pickup Artistry it was Neil Strauss it was the game it was mystery it was negging and like neuro-linguistic programming”
Where to get it
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Mate
Mate by Tucker Max and Geoffrey Miller is an evolutionary psychology-inspired dating and self-improvement guide designed to help men understand modern dating markets and relationship dynamics.
Recommended“it seems to me that books like mate by Toca Max and Jeffrey Miller if you've been familiar with that so they basically did this about 10 years ago and they Jeffrey Miller is one of the fathers of evolutionary psychology”
Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“Maybe people here for like read at least like Harry Potter right There is a feeling to like turning the last page in a book and closing it that will never be matched by scrolling memes on Tick Tock or Reddit for like 12 hours”



