Episode · The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast · 2025-03-03
Jordan Peterson & Michael Shellenberger: books mentioned on The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast #526
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger
Jordan Peterson sits down with journalist, bestselling author, and founder of Public.News, Michael Shellenberger.
Jordan Peterson recommended Systemantics by John Gall and Manliness by Harvey C. Mansfield.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Systemantics
Systemantics by John Gall is a cult classic book consisting of sharp, satirical axioms and aphorisms that humorously explain the dysfunctional behavior and unintended consequences of complex bureaucratic systems.
Recommended“and I was reading a book at that time by a man named John Gaul it's a great book it's a cult classic called systematics trying to make sense of this it's great title system Antics very smart and one of his maxims his axioms was the name of the system is not what the system does”
Where to get it
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Manliness
Manliness by Harvey C.
Recommended“yeah I mean I think that that picture that you're describing is the same one that Harvey Mansfield lays out in his wonderful book manliness where he has three levels of of masculinity”
Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (2) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
Plugged Apocalypse Never
“I mean I was concerned around the ways in which the most civilized people the elites have been undermining civilization since my since really my first and second book both on the environment and on homelessness undermining for exact for example the security of a city you know making cities dangerous again”
Plugged San Fransicko
“I mean I was concerned around the ways in which the most civilized people the elites have been undermining civilization since my since really my first and second book both on the environment and on homelessness undermining for exact for example the security of a city you know making cities dangerous again”