Episode · The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast · 2022-07-19
Jordan Peterson & Frans de Waal: books mentioned on The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast #269
The Biology of Good and Evil | Frans de Waal | EP 269
Jordan Peterson recommended Peacemaking among Primates by Frans B. M. de Waal, Good Natured by Frans B. M. de Waal, Mama's Last Hug by Frans de Waal, Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are? by Frans De Waal, and Different by Frans de Waal, and discussed Male and female by Margaret Mead and others. Frans de Waal discussed The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Peacemaking among Primates
Recommended“i've read about seven of his books uh peacemaking among primates i thought that was a great book”
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Good Natured
Recommended“good natured the origins of right and wrong in humans and other animals another great book”
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Mama's Last Hug
Recommended“He wrote mama's last hug as I mentioned before animal emotions what they tell us about ourselves”
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Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are?
Recommended“are we smart enough to know how smart animals are which is another great book”
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Different
Recommended“and most recently different gender through the eyes of a primatologist i would highly recommend to all of those who are watching and listening that you pick up any or all of dr dewall's books”
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Male and female
Discussed“so you mentioned margaret mead who's often mentioned in the context of cultural construction of of gender differences but i reread her book her book male and female and she has a whole section in there about what she calls universal differences between men and women”
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The Naked Ape
Discussed“um yeah i think wilson uh and you know i was also influenced in the beginning by uh desmond morris's book uh the naked eight”
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Other mentions in this episode (8) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
Passing Mama's Last Hug
“i would say his latest two books of many and i'll mention some others are mama's last hug norton 2019 and different gender through the eyes of her primatologist which was published by norton in 2022.”
Passing Different
“i would say his latest two books of many and i'll mention some others are mama's last hug norton 2019 and different gender through the eyes of her primatologist which was published by norton in 2022.”
Passing Chimpanzee Cultures
“chimpanzee cultures which he edited with richard rangham who's another guest on my show another great primatologist good natured”
Passing Bonobo
“bonable the forgotten ape an analysis of another very close relative of ours biologically speaking genetically speaking who”
Passing Mama's Last Hug
“he wrote mama's last hug as i mentioned before animal emotions what they tell us about ourselves”
Plugged Mama's Last Hug
“it also means that a female can be very powerful like i described in my previous book mama's last hug mama the alpha female who was alpha for for 40 years”
Plugged Different
“in my book on gender i talk quite a bit about female sexuality and the size of the clitoris and so on which is related to that seeking pleasure and so on”
Plugged Different
“that's a point that i make in my book is that the play behavior of the of the boys and of young male primates it's partly developing fighting skills”