Episode · Conversations with Tyler · 2021-04-21
Tyler Cowen & Shadi Bartsch: books mentioned on Conversations with Tyler
Shadi Bartsch on the Classics and China
A self-professed nerd, the young Shadi Bartsch could be found awake late at night, reading Latin under the covers of her bed by flashlight. Now a professor of Classics at the University of Chicago, Dr.
Tyler Cowen recommended The golden asse of Lucius Apuleius, and discussed The Aeneid by Publius Vergilius Maro, Lavinia by Ursula K. Le Guin, The Civil War, Metamorphoses, and Satiricon. Shadi Bartsch discussed The fourth eclogue of Virgil and Heroides.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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The Aeneid
The Aeneid by Publius Vergilius Maro is a foundational classical epic poem that follows the Trojan hero Aeneas as he travels to Italy and lays the groundwork for the founding of Rome.
Discussed“she has written very well-known books on seneca on lucan and perseus and her latest work is a wonderful translation of virgil's the ayanid”
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The fourth eclogue of Virgil
Discussed“the second reason is that virgil also wrote a poem called the fourth eclog in which he speaks very mysteriously about a child that will be born who will start a golden age”
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The Civil War
Discussed“why does reading lukan's the civil war make more sense in 2021 than it might have 30 years ago”
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Metamorphoses
Metamorphoses by Ovid is a foundational epic poem in classical mythology that chronicles the history of the world through various transformative myths.
Discussed“how does that complete the picture but ovid had the metamorphoses”
Where to get it
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Heroides
Discussed“and also in heroic seven which is a poem shaped like a letter written by dido to anaes”
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The golden asse of Lucius Apuleius
The Golden Ass by Lucius Apuleius is widely celebrated as the only completely preserved ancient Roman novel in Latin, offering a vivid and satirical look into antiquity through the fantastical misadventures of a man transformed into a donkey.
Recommended“and ditto for um epileus's golden ass in which a guy gets turned into a donkey and goes wandering around um greater grease getting into all sorts of trouble”
Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“now you have another book coming out soon called plato goes to china when is that due out”




