Episode · Freakonomics Radio · 2026-09-02
Books mentioned on How to Run an Institution in an Anti-Institution Era | Better in Person
Anne Pasternak (Brooklyn Museum) and Michael Roth (Wesleyan University) tell Stephen Dubner how they keep the peace in the middle of a culture war. If you'd like to see the video version of Better in Person, you can watch it on YouTube or Apple Podcasts.
Stephen Dubner discussed Safe Enough Spaces by Michael S. Roth. Michael Roth discussed Raised by Wolves by Jim Goldberg and Pictures from Home by Larry Sultan.
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Safe Enough Spaces
Discussed“Michael Roth isn't even scared of the free speech debate. He wrote a book called Safe Enough Spaces, and in 2012, Wesleyan hosted the Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.”
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Raised by Wolves
Discussed“So this is a photograph by Jim Goldberg. Jim is from New Haven originally, but he's been in Northern California for many decades. He's retired now from CCA, where I got to know him when I was president of the art school. And this is from a book called Raised by Wolves, which is a story of kids living on”
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Pictures from Home
Discussed“And then he did a book from which this is taken called Pictures from Home. This photograph is called Mom in Green Nightgown.”
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