Episode · The Daily Stoic · 2022-04-16
Ryan Holiday & Chuck Klosterman: books mentioned on The Daily Stoic
Chuck Klosterman on Writing, Being Wrong, and The Nineties
Ryan talks to author Chuck Klosterman about his new book The Nineties, the inevitability of being wrong, the value of simplicity, and more. Chuck Klosterman is a NYT bestselling author and culture critic.
Ryan Holiday recommended Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury and I Wear the Black Hat by Chuck Klosterman, and discussed The Nineties by Chuck Klosterman, Meditations by Aurelius Marcus, and But What If We're Wrong? by Chuck Klosterman. Chuck Klosterman recommended Animal Farm by George Orwell, and discussed Chronicles by Bob Dylan, Black Boy by Richard Wright, and Crossroads by Jonathan Franzen.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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The Nineties
Discussed“all right so in in the book though this is this is one thing that jumped out at me because they do appear once in the book but only very briefly so you one of your definitions of the 90s is uh the release of nevermind and the end of and then and then 911”
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Chronicles
Discussed“Reading Bob Dylan's memoir gave an intriguing perspective; he believed long songs with many verses are valuable for practicing memorization without context.”
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Meditations
Discussed“I don't know if you've ever read Marx realis meditations but what's surreal about this work uh compared against essentially all other works of ancient philosophy is that a normal person can just sit down and read it and make sense of what he's talking about because Marcus Aurelius was writing a simple diary to himself right”
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But What If We're Wrong?
Discussed“and that's the premise of what if we're wrong you're sort of thinking about things that we take for granted”
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Fahrenheit 451
Recommended“have you read uh Fahrenheit 451 at all since high school not since high school you should reread it”
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Black Boy
Discussed“I can remember specific scenes from Richard Wright's Black Boy in a vivid way.”
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Crossroads
Discussed“I'm reading Jonathan franzen's crossroads right now and it's great and I've already forgotten Parts at the beginning of the book”
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Animal Farm
Recommended“like you know my favorite book of all time probably is animal farm and it's really funny to me to think that the first time I read that”
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I Wear the Black Hat
Recommended“and I also love uh I wear the black hat I thought that was a great book too”
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Other mentions in this episode (7) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
Plugged The Nineties
“In my book about 'The 90s,' I wrote about Nirvana and grunge, and I included a footnote regarding how it may seem like I'm juxtaposing a white guy from the eroded world of rock with a hip-hop artist from the rising world of rap.”
Plugged The Nineties
“like I mean like you know like a I I mentioned in the book it's like you know Courtney Love is a real 90s figure”
Plugged The Nineties
“there there is a lot of these things in the 90s that were really extensions of the 80s that were sort of Forgotten for ideological reasons even though they were still happening and still sort of having uh like uh uh more success than the things that we thought were important like I mean like you know like a I”
Plugged Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs
“well you know like like the second book I wrote was sex drugs and Cocoa Puffs and that was a lot about the 90s too and when the book came out”
Plugged But What If We're Wrong?
“I had a book come out in 2016 uh but what if we're wrong okay so we're making well uh but we're I'm doing an audiobook for this right”
Plugged But What If We're Wrong?
“I had a book come out in 2016 called 'But What If We're Wrong?'. So I was doing an audiobook for it, and I thought, 'I don't like the sound of my own voice.'”
Plugged The Contrarian
“I think it truly is a no-win proposition; I wrote a book about Peter Thiel and his lawsuit against Gawker that scrutinized media.”