Episode · The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast · 2022-06-09
Books mentioned on 260. Beyond Order: Rule 1 - Do Not Carelessly Denigrate Social Institutions or Creative Achievement
This compilation showcases clips surrounding Rule 1 from Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life: “Do not carelessly denigrate social institutions or creative achievement.” These conversations feature the likes of Steven Pinker, Theo Von, Jonathan Haidt, Ben Shapiro, and more.
Jordan Peterson discussed Twilight of the Idols by Friedrich Nietzsche and Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Twilight of the Idols
Twilight of the Idols is a classic philosophical work by Friedrich Nietzsche originally published in the late nineteenth century that explores the transvaluation of values, critiques contemporary culture, and examines human psychology.
Discussed“Nietzsche put as one question of conscience. And I think it's in Twilight of the Idols, whether you're a leader or whether you're running away, you're outside the pack and moving in a different direction in either case.”
Where to get it
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Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll is a classic nineteenth-century children's novel about a young girl named Alice who falls down a rabbit hole into a fantastical realm populated by peculiar creatures and nonsensical rules.
Discussed“There's this old, there's this line in Ellis in Wonderland when Ellis goes down the rabbit hole underneath the structure of things, and she meets the Red Queen down there. The Red Queen is basically Mother Nature”
Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (2) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“We've created a compilation episode for every rule in Beyond Order, so this episode discusses rule one, do not carelessly denigrate social institutions or creative achievement, and features Steven Pinker”
“Well, so this book, the first chapter is do not casually denigrate social institutions or creative achievement. I pick that quite carefully because, again, the liberal types are more likely to criticize social institutions.”

