Episode · Freakonomics Radio · 2026-02-06

Books mentioned on 662. If You’re Not Cheating, You’re Not Trying

3 books · With Louisa Thomas, Floyd Landis, April Henning, Aron D'Souza · Listen · Watch on YouTube

In sports, the rules are meant to be sacrosanct. But when it comes to performance-enhancing drugs, the slope is super-slippery.

Stephen Dubner discussed Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll, Positively False by Floyd Landis and others, and Doping by April Henning and others.

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

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  1. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

    Lewis Carroll · at 0:55

    Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll is a classic nineteenth-century children's novel about a young girl named Alice who falls down a rabbit hole into a fantastical realm populated by peculiar creatures and nonsensical rules.

    Discussed
    “Have you read Alice's Adventures in Wonderland?”
    Where to get it
  2. Positively False

    Floyd Landis; Loren Mooney · at 18:11

    Discussed
    “Your denial was pretty robust. You wrote a book, right? Positively False: The Real Story of How I Won the Tour de France, which was not a truthful account, plainly.”
    Where to get it
  3. Doping

    April Henning; Paul Dimeo · at 26:18

    Discussed
    “April Henning, along with her co-author Paul D'Amato, has written about all this in a book called Doping: A Sporting History.”
    Where to get it