Episode · The Joe Rogan Experience · 2026-07-30
Joe Rogan & Diana Pasulka: books mentioned on The Joe Rogan Experience #2533
#2533 - Diana Pasulka
Diana Pasulka is a professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and the author of several books. Her most recent, "The Others: UFOs, AI, and the Secret Forces Guiding Human Destiny," is out now.
Joe Rogan recommended American Cosmic by Diana Walsh Pasulka, and discussed Messengers of Deception by Jacques Vallee. Diana Pasulka discussed Wonders in the Sky by Jacques Vallee and others, Behold a Pale Farce by Bill Blunden and others, and Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Messengers of Deception
Messengers of Deception by Jacques Vallee is a well-known examination of unidentified flying objects that explores the complex social and psychological deceptions often surrounding the phenomenon.
Discussed“He spent of course his whole life studying this. And he wrote a book called Messengers of Deception.”
Where to get it
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Wonders in the Sky
Discussed“And he wrote Wonders in the Sky all about that. Stopped at like I think it was like 1860 or something like that.”
Where to get it
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Behold a Pale Farce
Behold a Pale Farce by Bill Blunden and Violet Cheung serves as a critical examination of modern power structures and state narratives.
Discussed“Bill Cooper's book um Behold a Pale Horse. ... Okay, so in Behold a Pale Horse, he talks about the quiet weapons.”
Where to get it
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Childhood's End
Childhood's End by Arthur C.
Discussed“You see this by the way is the Arthur C. Clarke in his book in his short story Childhood's End or no, it's a book. ... Where, you know, that he's talking about aliens, where these aliens are engineering humanity through technology, through social media, and things like that.”
Where to get it
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American Cosmic
American Cosmic by Diana Walsh Pasulka is a fascinating exploration by a religious studies professor that investigates the intersection of unidentified anomalous phenomena, modern technology, religion, and cultural mythology.
Recommended“And I really loved your other book, too, American Cosmic.”
Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“So, yeah, I told you last time I was on here that Tyler, right, in my American Cosmic book, um told me he that he was the real deal.”




