Episode · The Joe Rogan Experience · 2026-07-30
Books mentioned on #2533 - Diana Pasulka
Diana Pasulka is a professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and the author of several books. Her most recent, "The Others: UFOs, AI, and the Secret Forces Guiding Human Destiny," is out now.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Messengers of Deception
Messengers of Deception by Jacques Vallee is a well-known examination of unidentified flying objects that explores the complex social and psychological deceptions often surrounding the phenomenon.
Discussed“He spent of course his whole life studying this. And he wrote a book called Messengers of Deception.”
Where to get it
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Wonders in the Sky
Discussed“And he wrote Wonders in the Sky all about that. Stopped at like I think it was like 1860 or something like that.”
Where to get it
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Behold a Pale Farce
Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper is a controversial and notorious conspiracy text that compiles various claims regarding secret societies, government disinformation, and quiet weapons.
Discussed“Bill Cooper's book um Behold a Pale Horse. ... Okay, so in Behold a Pale Horse, he talks about the quiet weapons.”
Where to get it
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Childhood's End
Arthur C.
Discussed“You see this by the way is the Arthur C. Clarke in his book in his short story Childhood's End or no, it's a book. ... Where, you know, that he's talking about aliens, where these aliens are engineering humanity through technology, through social media, and things like that.”
Where to get it
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American Cosmic
American Cosmic by Diana Walsh Pasulka is a fascinating sociological exploration of UFO culture, anomalous phenomena, and the ways in which modern technology and belief systems intersect to form new religious movements.
Recommended“And I really loved your other book, too, American Cosmic.”
Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“So, yeah, I told you last time I was on here that Tyler, right, in my American Cosmic book, um told me he that he was the real deal.”