Podcast: Stuff They Don't Want You To Know

Episode: Did Charles Manson work with the CIA? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on June 6, 2024)

Because even this book 'Chaos' has its own strange provenance.

The podcast hosts mention the book 'Chaos' again and delve into its unique background and the story behind its creation.

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Episode: Did Charles Manson work with the CIA? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on June 6, 2024)

He has decades of research because he is increasingly convinced something doesn't add up. And the end result of all this is the book 'Chaos.'

The podcast hosts mention the book 'Chaos' again while explaining the book’s research and the background of the author, Tom O'Neill. They mention the book is the culmination of decades of research.

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Episode: Did Charles Manson work with the CIA? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on June 6, 2024)

I guess we should at least mention what 'Chaos' is, right?

The podcast hosts reference the book 'Chaos' before diving into its main thesis, which discusses the connections between Charles Manson and the CIA's secret program known as 'CHAOS'.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Best/Worst Candy, Human Cloning Puns | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on April 19, 2024)

I just got done reading the 2019 book by author Tom O'Neal, titled 'Chaos: The CIA and Charles Manson.' It dives into the Manson Family and all this other stuff and draws a bunch of conclusions that I think you guys would find interesting.

A listener named Full Body Taste mentions reading the book 'Chaos: The CIA and Charles Manson' by Tom O'Neal and suggests that its content would be interesting for the podcast hosts. The book explores alleged connections between the CIA and Charles Manson.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Rise of the Chimera | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on January 3, 2025)

Yeah, I know that a lot of us listening today are huge fans of Animal Farm, right? In the work of George Orwell, there is an incredibly bleak, incredibly well-written part of that book where the animals—well, quick spoiler—Animal Farm, if you are not familiar with the plot and don’t want it spoiled for you and you’ve been waiting for a chance to read it or watch one of the many adaptations, please consider this your spoiler warning.

During the episode, the hosts engage with the audience about 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell, acknowledging its popularity among listeners and noting that it is frequently assigned in schools. They delve into key plot points and the significant themes of the book, offering insights that connect it to the broader discussions in the episode titled 'The Rise of the Chimera.'

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Rise of the Chimera | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on January 3, 2025)

In the work of George Orwell, there is an incredibly bleak, incredibly well-written part of that book where the animals—well, quick spoiler—Animal Farm, if you are not familiar with the plot and don’t want it spoiled for you and you’ve been waiting for a chance to read it or watch one of the many adaptations, please consider this your spoiler warning. Alright, so in Animal Farm, the human owners of the farm, or the human authority figures of the farm, are kicked out of power, right?

The hosts discuss 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell, highlighting a particularly poignant section of the book. They provide a brief summary of its plot and caution listeners about spoilers, setting the stage for the themes explored in the episode.

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Episode: Strange News: Did Russia Just Threaten The Next President? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 20, 2024)

Yeah, as a brainstorm or a blue sky pitch; very Handmaid's Tale in some ways! Like what's that thing that went around?

The hosts reference *The Handmaid's Tale* as a comparison to a political policy, providing insight into the implications of forced sterilization.

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Episode: CLASSIC: Who Killed Artemus Ogletree? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 14, 2024)

Oh yes, yes, yes. The non-handmaid's tale, that's right.

In this segment, the podcast hosts cleverly reference the famous book and TV series *The Handmaid's Tale*, jokingly distinguishing it while discussing narrative framing.

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Episode: Strange News: A Tragedy in Idaho Springs, Stranded Astronauts | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 3, 2024)

You just have to make sure you get the app, you know, you get the email, sign up in advance. Brave New World!

During the discussion, the podcast hosts reference the book 'Brave New World' in response to the concept of a service that allows individuals to use an app to receive a beam of light at a designated location and time. This allusion highlights the potential dystopian implications of such technology.

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Episode: Strange News: A Tragedy in Idaho Springs, Stranded Astronauts | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 3, 2024)

Hell, I mean, Luna Juice and Sunshine On Demand, this sounds, this does sound like Brave New World or something along those lines.

The podcast hosts reference 'Brave New World' to draw a thematic comparison regarding the potential implications of a technology that allows companies to direct light using mirrors in space, evoking a sense of dystopia.

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Episode: The Ica Stones, Part Two: Secrets Revealed | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 31, 2024)

Publishes a paperback that I loved when it came out—the Chariots of the Gods?—question mark, a little bit of hedging there. He publishes this first in 1969; it becomes an international bestseller, and a deluge of similar books hit the market right after.

In this episode, the hosts highlight the book 'Chariots of the Gods?' by Erich von Däniken, discussing its impact on the exploration of fringe theories regarding ancient civilizations. They mention that it became an international bestseller shortly after its release in 1969, leading to a wave of similar publications.

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Episode: The Ica Stones, Part One: A Mysterious Origin Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 29, 2024)

If you heard the phrase, you might not immediately recognize it, but if you saw one of these stones, your memory would flash back to maybe a BBC documentary or maybe Eric Von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods?

In this episode, the hosts reference Eric Von Daniken's book, Chariots of the Gods?, a title that may resonate with listeners as they discuss the Ica stones and their connection to intriguing historical narratives.

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Episode: CLASSIC: What are the Phoenix lights? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on January 1, 2025)

Yeah, that's just at least the image I get. Eric Von Däniken! Love to drop that name.

The podcast host references the name of researcher 'Eric Von Däniken', known for his writings on ancient astronauts. This occurs during a discussion about theories concerning ancient technologies.

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Episode: When was Jesus actually born? Chapter Two: Why December? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 28, 2024)

George Frasier, 'The Golden Bough' is nuts; it was first published in 1890 and it’s talking about a lot of the same things and it still holds up because Frasier was largely correct!

The hosts are discussing the winter solstice and the commonalities of practices around the world. They mention 'The Golden Bough' by James George Frazer as a seminal work on comparative religion that explores these shared traditions.

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Episode: Big Chicken, Modified Parachutes, the Big Vegetarian Conspiracy | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 27, 2024)

Check out The Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan. To your point, Sarah is whispering in.

In this segment, Ben, the podcast host, highlights the book 'The Omnivore's Dilemma' by Michael Pollan, incorporating it into a conversation about vegetarianism and food choices.

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Episode: Contras, Cocaine and the CIA: The True Story of Barry Seal | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 27, 2024)

Well, according to a gentleman named Pete Bruton who wrote a book called The Mafia, CIA, and George Bush, he says as soon as Seal was freed, he quote, 'began working full-time for the CIA, traveling back and forth from the U.S. to Latin America!'

In this segment, the podcast hosts reference the book 'The Mafia, CIA, and George Bush' authored by Pete Bruton. They discuss how Bruton claims that Barry Seal began working full-time for the CIA immediately after his release from prison, frequently traveling to Latin America.

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Episode: When was Jesus actually born? Chapter One: An Origin Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 26, 2024)

I am so sorry, guys, last thing on Scrooge, does A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens exist?

During a discussion about the movie 'Scrooged,' one of the hosts inquires whether the book 'A Christmas Carol' by Charles Dickens is part of the movie's universe.

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Episode: When was Jesus actually born? Chapter One: An Origin Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 26, 2024)

And I love this because this feels like an allusion to the work of Joseph Campbell or Frasier's The Golden Bough, which are great reads if you're into folklore—seminal works.

The podcast hosts are discussing the concept of immaculate conception and its place in folklore narratives. One of the hosts mentions 'The Golden Bough' by James George Frazer as a recommended book for those interested in folklore.

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Episode: When was Jesus actually born? Chapter One: An Origin Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 26, 2024)

That’s interesting, too, when you switch between New International Version of the Bible in King James and some of the other newer versions of the Bible, Book of Mormon... yeah.

The hosts delve into the variations between different translations of the Bible, highlighting the 'New International Version' and discussing how these differences might change the interpretations compared to other versions, including the Book of Mormon.

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Episode: When was Jesus actually born? Chapter One: An Origin Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 26, 2024)

That’s interesting, too, when you switch between New International Version of the Bible in King James and some of the other newer versions of the Bible, Book of Mormon... yeah.

The hosts explore how switching between various versions of the Bible, including the New International Version and the King James Version, can change interpretations. They mention the Book of Mormon as part of this discussion.

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Episode: When was Jesus actually born? Chapter One: An Origin Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 26, 2024)

That’s interesting, too, when you switch between New International Version of the Bible in King James and some of the other newer versions of the Bible, Book of Mormon... yeah.

The hosts explore how various religious texts, including the 'Book of Mormon' and different versions of the Bible, can influence interpretations and meanings.

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Episode: When was Jesus actually born? Chapter One: An Origin Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 26, 2024)

So people in the modern world figuring out the exact date of Jesus's birthday, their goals differ from the goals of whomever wrote the gospels.

The hosts discuss how modern historians trying to determine the timing of Jesus' birth have different objectives compared to the authors of the gospels.

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Episode: When was Jesus actually born? Chapter One: An Origin Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 26, 2024)

But if you go to other scholars, like Flavius Josephus—oh, what a great name!

The podcast hosts mention the renowned ancient historian Flavius Josephus to provide additional historical context.

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Episode: Strange News: Mysterious Deaths Ignored, Landmark Assault Trial | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 25, 2024)

That's why Gavin de Becker’s The Gift of Fear is a must-read book, and it's a really important point, I think, beyond just France; it's a human experiential point.

In the podcast, the hosts emphasize the importance of Gavin de Becker's book 'The Gift of Fear' as essential reading. They relate its insights to a broader discussion about the threats posed by potential predators in society, extending beyond the specific context of sexual assault in France.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Pork Skyscrapers, Star Wars, EMDR Therapy | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 20, 2024)

I mean, this sounds like the kind of stuff that Upton Sinclair wrote about in 'The Jungle' like back, you know what I mean?

Matt mentions 'The Jungle' by Upton Sinclair as he draws a parallel between the horrific conditions of a pork production facility discussed by a listener and the appalling working and living conditions depicted in the book. He suggests that the listener's descriptions are reminiscent of the early-20th century meat-packing plants that Sinclair famously exposed.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Pork Skyscrapers, Star Wars, EMDR Therapy | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 20, 2024)

Yet I hold firm; I will stand on this hill, omnivore's dilemma aside, shout out to the author Michael Pollan, the idea of speciesism is very real and is impacting a world that is still wrestling with the dwindling biodiversity on the planet right now.

Ben refers to 'Omnivore's Dilemma' by Michael Pollan while discussing the concept of speciesism. He acknowledges both the book and its author to emphasize his argument about the ethical treatment of animals.

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Episode: The Illuminati of Online Dating, Chapter One: The Game of Love | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 19, 2024)

Such that, you know, Cloud Atlas becomes an awesome story and people believe in reincarnation.

In this segment, the podcast host refers to the book 'Cloud Atlas' to emphasize a narrative about reincarnation, highlighting its significance as a story that inspires belief in the concept.

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Episode: Strange News: The Mystery Drones, AI Granny Versus Scammers | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 17, 2024)

A book written by author Jay Fineman, first published in 2010, has skyrocketed to number two on the Amazon non-fiction charts, titled Delay, Deny, Defend.

The podcast hosts discuss a book titled 'Delay, Deny, Defend' authored by Jay Fineman, which has unexpectedly risen to #2 on the Amazon nonfiction charts due to its relevance to a recent assassination of a healthcare CEO.

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Episode: The Third Man Factor, Chapter Two: The Science and The Spirit | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 16, 2024)

Oh yeah, and guys, in the time between these two episodes, I mentioned just off air that I was reading that book, The Nameless.

In this brief mention, the podcast host shares that during the break between episodes, he was reading a book called 'The Nameless'.

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Episode: The Third Man Factor, Chapter Two: The Science and The Spirit | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 16, 2024)

Yeah, it's written by one of our favorite graphic novel authors, Grant Morrison, that Ben, you got me into with The Invisibles when I was just a wee kid, so thank you for that.

In this segment, podcast host Jo recalls how fellow host Ben introduced him to the graphic novel series 'The Invisibles' by Grant Morrison when he was a child, expressing gratitude for the discovery.

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Episode: The Third Man Factor, Chapter One: "Who is the third who walks always beside you?" (Published on December 14, 2024)

The name is derived from a passage that T.S. Eliot wrote in his haunting poem The Waste Land, which also, if you like good stuff, you should read in full.

In this segment, the podcast hosts reference T.S. Eliot's poem 'The Waste Land' as the inspiration for the term 'Third Man Factor', which is central to the episode's theme. They encourage listeners to read the poem for deeper understanding.

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Episode: The Third Man Factor, Chapter One: "Who is the third who walks always beside you?" (Published on December 14, 2024)

One of the best books about this, and shout out to our pal Dylan Fagan, there is The Third Man Factor: Surviving the Impossible by a guy named John Gyer.

In this segment, the podcast hosts highlight the book 'The Third Man Factor: Surviving the Impossible' by John Gyer, noting its relevance to the discussion. They recommend the book and give a shout out to their colleague Dylan Fagan for bringing it to their attention.

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Episode: The Third Man Factor, Chapter One: "Who is the third who walks always beside you?" (Published on December 14, 2024)

As a matter of fact, we have a couple of quotations; one from Shackleton's same work on his expeditions called simply South, because, you know, it's Antarctica.

In this segment, the hosts reference the book 'South' by Ernest Shackleton, highlighting it as a source for a quote related to his expeditions in Antarctica.

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Episode: The Third Man Factor, Chapter One: "Who is the third who walks always beside you?" (Published on December 14, 2024)

Oh true, it goes... and I love that we're mentioning Slocum, who is an historical figure that I wish more people read; his book is Sailing Alone Around the World, a stem-to-banger.

In this segment, the hosts discuss Joshua Slocum, an important historical figure, and express a desire for more people to read his book, 'Sailing Alone Around the World', which they describe as a compelling read related to the theme of 'third man' experiences.

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Episode: The Third Man Factor, Chapter One: "Who is the third who walks always beside you?" (Published on December 14, 2024)

When you call in, tell us something about maybe McDonald Critchley, the dude who wrote 'The Idea of a Presence,' which is one of the things that went into this episode.

In this segment, the hosts encourage listeners to call in and share their thoughts about McDonald Critchley, the author of 'The Idea of a Presence,' which is referenced as one of the sources that influenced the episode.

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Episode: CLASSIC: Uncle Sam Opens The Gateway: The Monroe Institute | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 11, 2024)

In his 1971 book Journeys Out of the Body, is that correct? Yes, correct. And he had Far Journeys; that's another one of his books, Ultimate Journey, lots of journeys.

The podcast hosts are discussing Bob Monroe, the namesake of the Monroe Institute. They mention his book 'Journeys Out of the Body', which was published in 1971.

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Episode: CLASSIC: Uncle Sam Opens The Gateway: The Monroe Institute | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 11, 2024)

And he had Far Journeys; that's another one of his books, Ultimate Journey, lots of journeys. Journey Out of the Body, that's the big one. It's really—he's a fascinating character, and if you go to the Monroe Institute's website, which is monroeinstitute.org, you can actually find YouTube videos of this man, Bob Monroe, where he's giving talks.

The hosts discuss the book 'Far Journeys' as another work by Bob Monroe, highlighting his intriguing character and referencing the Monroe Institute where listeners can find more information and videos about him.

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Episode: Thank You, Dr. Fauci, with Jenner Furst | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 9, 2024)

Well, I think it’s very interesting because actually when I had finished and premiered 'The Pharmacist,' I had been contacted by these producers who wanted to attach me as a director to this film about Anthony Fauci's work in Africa.

Jenner Furst shares that he found it interesting that after completing 'The Pharmacist', he was approached by producers who wanted him to direct a film focusing on Anthony Fauci's efforts in Africa.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Falun Gong, Eye Movement Desensitization | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on December 7, 2024)

That's why Proust wrote 'A Taste of Things Remembered.' It's all about how he eats a madeleine dipped in tea or something like that.

During a discussion about the connection between smell and memory, one of the hosts mentions 'A Taste of Things Remembered' by Proust, which explores how he experiences a madeleine dipped in tea, linking food with nostalgia.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Kangaroo Court, The Blue Zone Conspiracy | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 30, 2024)

But the story is, he and another doctor he worked with, Dr. Rosen, wrote a series of books called the 'You' series, like 'You: The Owner's Manual', 'You on a Diet', 'You Being Beautiful', and they would come in and shoot videos for them.

The hosts are discussing a former coworker, Dr. O, who co-authored a series of books known as the 'You' series, which includes titles such as 'You: The Owner's Manual', 'You on a Diet', and 'You Being Beautiful'.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Kangaroo Court, The Blue Zone Conspiracy | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 30, 2024)

It was called a 'Straight Yankee in Texas' and they used the phrase 'kangaroo court', but they also used the phrase 'Mustang Court' and they spelled it differently.

In this segment, the podcast hosts discuss the first known recorded use of the term 'kangaroo court' and mention a book titled 'Straight Yankee in Texas' that includes this phrase.

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Episode: The Troubled Border of Myanmar, Chapter One: A Peaceful History | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 22, 2024)

Wow, yeah, most famously when Marvel Comics published a new edition of their encyclopedia. That's the other thing; those are the two things that happened.

The hosts briefly discuss the publication of a new edition of the Marvel Comics Encyclopedia, noting that this event coincided with the year 1989, when Burma changed its name to Myanmar. This mention serves as an illustration of significant occurrences at that time.

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Episode: The Troubled Border of Myanmar, Chapter One: A Peaceful History | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 22, 2024)

There are still, you know, like shout out to Rudyard Kipling's Kim, you know, the Brits are still there in some capacity. And of course, '67, you've got French Indochina, you've got the US definitely not being there.

The hosts reference Rudyard Kipling's novel *Kim* to highlight the ongoing presence of the British in the region during the historical context they are discussing, while pointing out that the United States was not involved at that time.

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Episode: Strange News: Did Russia Just Threaten The Next President? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 20, 2024)

That Bible is full of the original feet pics!

The podcast hosts jokingly refer to The Holy Bible as being full of graphic descriptions of feet being washed, suggesting it contains the original 'feet pics', while discussing the website 'Wiki Feet'.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Windover Bog Bodies | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 20, 2024)

Eric Von Daniken? Eric Von Daniken, yes, that's right, Chariots of the Gods!

During the podcast, the host refers to Erich von Däniken and his book, Chariots of the Gods!, while exploring notable figures in the UFO community at Alien Con. This mention is part of a broader discourse on history and unsolved mysteries.

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Episode: CLASSIC: Eye tracking and Advertising | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 18, 2024)

Uh, it’s like Flannery O’Connor said, 'All that rises must converge,' right? Yeah, but now in a really cool way.

The hosts reference a quote from Flannery O'Connor, suggesting that it relates to contemporary themes like the convergence of privacy issues.

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Episode: Strange News: Peanut the Squirrel, Nashville Drone Attack | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 13, 2024)

Uh, and he got these recordings a few years back when he was interviewing Epstein about the subject of a book he wrote called Fire and Fury.

In this segment, the podcast host, Ben, discusses a book titled 'Fire and Fury', referring to journalist Michael Wolff's interviews with Jeffrey Epstein. He elaborates on recent allegations and recordings that surfaced concerning Epstein.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Bank Scandals, Amish Abuse, Letters From Home | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 9, 2024)

They okay, got it, in the books, you also see also see it mentioned as, you know, kind of like when people are following a religion and they rationalize they're doing by citing a book.

The hosts are discussing the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, a set of guidelines for business and life from the Star Trek universe. They compare the way these rules are referenced in the show and other materials to how religious followers use books for justification.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Bank Scandals, Amish Abuse, Letters From Home | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 9, 2024)

Typically though, in the canon of Frankenstein, he usually doesn't like fall apart; but like Humpty Dumpty, yeah!

The hosts are playfully discussing whether Frankenstein's monster 'falls to pieces,' referencing the book's canon; they are engaging in lighthearted banter within a Halloween-themed discussion.

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Episode: Mysteries of Laos: What is the Plain of Jars? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 7, 2024)

Oh, like the Christopher Walken King Louie in the live-action Jungle Book! That's the way it's depicted in the live-action Jungle Book in the King Louie character.

The hosts make a comparison to 'The Jungle Book' to illustrate the appearance of Gigantopithecus. They specifically refer to King Louie from the live-action adaptation, highlighting the character's large size to establish a connection to their discussion.

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Episode: Dangerous Thoughts: What is an Infohazard? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 4, 2024)

He wrote this book in 1976 called 'The Selfish Gene,' and he took the word meme from the root of memo, mimic! And Wartman has this great quote summing it up, which I don't know, like we’re going straight to our pal Wartman here because he sums it up the best, I think! The quote is basically a meme is an idea, the kind of idea that endures over time like a memory, which can be copied or mimicked and shared like a memo!

The hosts of the podcast mention the book 'The Selfish Gene', written by Richard Dawkins, as they discuss the origin of the term 'meme.' They explain how the term relates to the concepts of 'memo' and 'mimic'.

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Episode: Dangerous Thoughts: What is an Infohazard? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 4, 2024)

Isn't Robert W. Chambers who wrote 'The Yellow King,' famously sort of memed in its own way in season one of 'True Detective'? And in 'The Yellow King,' the entire universe of that, which is very Lovecraft, and it's wrapped around... that's a nice Carcosa reference! The idea that there is some sort of play, and if you read the play, by the very act of experiencing that, you will go mad!

The hosts of the podcast discuss 'The Yellow King' by Robert W. Chambers, relating it to the theme of infohazards explored in the episode. They point out how the play included in the book is said to drive its readers mad, linking it to ideas from the horror genre.

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Episode: Dangerous Thoughts: What is an Infohazard? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on November 4, 2024)

It's a comic series that you can get in these little graphic novel compendium things called 'Department of Truth.' Without spoiling it too much, it's based on a secret government society that attempts to ensure conspiracy theories aren't believed by enough people. It manifests in the real world.

The hosts of the podcast mention the comic series 'Department of Truth,' which explores the real-world implications of believed conspiracy theories. They discuss how the narrative suggests that widespread belief in an idea can lead it to become a reality.

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Episode: Classic: Vaccines: Fact vs. Fiction | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 30, 2024)

There's a guy named Joseph Needham who wrote a book called Science and Civilization in China and he talks about this in volume six.

During the discussion about the history of smallpox inoculation, the host refers to a book titled 'Science and Civilization in China,' authored by Joseph Needham, highlighting its relevance to the topic.

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Episode: The Ongoing Amish Abuse Scandal | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 29, 2024)

I can't remember which version of that makes it into your book.

In this segment, the host refers to 'your book', which is clearly understood to be the Bible, as they discuss topics related to Jesus and his actions.

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Episode: Listener Mail: The Hybrid Sheep Conspiracy, A Kentucky Homicide | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 26, 2024)

I only know about this; there's a book called Dark Wire. Dark Wire, it's coming out as a Netflix series actually, that was the news that brought up in the press recently. I didn't know—I remember the book, um, by a guy named Joseph Cox; it's a great read.

In this segment, the hosts talk about the book 'Dark Wire' written by Joseph Cox, which details a significant FBI sting operation. They mention that the book is being adapted into a Netflix series, linking it to a broader discussion on similar real-life operations.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The 9 Angles: Does Satan have a “military”? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 24, 2024)

He created the Satanic Bible, it still to this day remains available, you can find it, it's one of the most, at least most available books that you can find about Satanism or the satanic religion.

In this segment, the hosts discuss the 'Satanic Bible', authored by Anton LaVey, highlighting its status as a well-known and accessible book on Satanism.

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Episode: Strange News: FEMA Under Attack, Active Shooter Drills | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 22, 2024)

And I'll just leave it with this: in the Arthur C. Clarke novel '2001: A Space Odyssey,' of course the film is based on that too, Europa comes up a lot.

In this segment, the podcast host, Ben, discusses the book '2001: A Space Odyssey' by Arthur C. Clarke, pointing out its notable focus on the moon Europa. He highlights how the narrative influenced the film adaptation, and links this to NASA's plans to explore Europa for signs of habitability.

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Episode: What was the Ludlow Massacre? Chapter Two: Conspiracy, Disaster | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 20, 2024)

Again, not found in your history textbooks, at least not in grade school, or unless you had Howard Zinn at your career day. Do you think he did career days?

In this segment, the host brings up Howard Zinn to highlight that the history of the Ludlow Massacre is rarely covered in traditional textbooks. The host humorously speculates about whether Zinn attended career days at schools, implying that if he did, students would have learned about overlooked historical events.

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Episode: What was the Ludlow Massacre? Chapter One: Colorado Coal Rush | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 18, 2024)

Shout out to Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath, hugely, that's the book that really hipped me to this whole struggle and this whole structure, you know?

In the podcast, the host highlights 'The Grapes of Wrath' by John Steinbeck, stating that it opened his eyes to the struggles and dynamics within the labor movement in the United States.

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Episode: What was the Ludlow Massacre? Chapter One: Colorado Coal Rush | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 18, 2024)

There's a film called Bound for Glory that is about Woody Guthrie's story, the folk singer and his involvement in labor, and it shows this exact kind of Grapes of Wrath type situation where there are these, just they're these almost like camps of folks that are waiting for work, and it's just not coming.

The hosts briefly mention the film 'Bound for Glory,' which tells the story of folk singer Woody Guthrie and explores his involvement in labor movements. The film illustrates labor conditions in the US, drawing parallels to the struggles depicted in 'The Grapes of Wrath.'

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Episode: CLASSIC: Did John Astor steal Captain Kidd's treasure? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 16, 2024)

In a work of his called Shakespeare's Insomnia and the Causes Thereof, he claims that newly discovered correspondence between Shakespeare, Sir Walter Raleigh, an actor named William Kemp, and a moneylender with a tremendously offensive name—he all show that Shakespeare had difficulty with money and marriage!

The podcast hosts are discussing the works of Franklin Harvey Head, specifically mentioning his book 'Shakespeare's Insomnia and the Causes Thereof.' In this work, Head claims that Shakespeare's issues with money and marriage resulted in chronic insomnia, which manifested in his writings. The book serves as an example of Head's satirical style.

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Episode: CLASSIC: Did John Astor steal Captain Kidd's treasure? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 16, 2024)

He writes a book called Studies in Early American History: A Notable Lawsuit!

The podcast hosts are discussing Franklin Harvey Head's book, 'Studies in Early American History: A Notable Lawsuit!', which features a fictional story about a lawsuit between the Olmstead family and the Astor family regarding Captain Kidd's treasure. This book serves as the source for the conspiracy theory being explored, suggesting that John Jacob Astor's wealth is derived from treasure stolen from the Olmstead family.

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Episode: Strange News: Potato/Blood Space Bricks, The Waffle House Index | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 15, 2024)

Not just about how the legislative sausage gets made, but again, like I was pointing out earlier, the work of Hannah Arendt with the banality of evil, right?

The podcast host references Hannah Arendt's concept of 'the banality of evil' while discussing the political process of lawmaking. This book explores how large systems can enable wrongdoing by distancing individuals from the repercussions of their actions. It is contextualized within a conversation about a bill that appears beneficial at first glance but could ultimately be used to target political adversaries.

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Episode: Can you remotely blow up a mobile device? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 9, 2024)

Oh my gosh, the beefs are in the Bible, you know what I mean? It goes back a little while.

One of the podcast hosts refers to 'the Bible' while discussing the parallels between current world conflicts and historical disputes, emphasizing a long-standing source of conflict.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Recent Calamities, Three Mile Island, Addiction | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 6, 2024)

I saw videos from there where it was just literally like the mist, like the Stephen King story, just absolutely this very weird, sickly kind of haze. I don't know, what did you experience that?

In this segment, host Matt references Stephen King's story "The Mist" to illustrate the strange, unhealthy haze resulting from a chlorine leak.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Shugborough Inscription Cipher | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 2, 2024)

In another book called Anson's Gold, a fellow named George Edmund says that we have to remember George Anson was a naval man—he was an admiral! And George Edmund argues that Anson created this cipher to hide the latitude and longitude of an island where he had buried or discovered a huge Spanish treasure! Oh, it's a treasure map!

The hosts are discussing theories about the Shugborough Inscription. They mention a book titled 'Anson's Gold' by George Edmund, which suggests that the inscription serves as a hidden treasure map created by George Anson and Admiral Nelson.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Shugborough Inscription Cipher | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 2, 2024)

In 1982, the author of a book called The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail speculated that the painter you had mentioned earlier, uh, Poussin, was a member of what's called the Priory of Sion! And we remember we interviewed, uh, the daughter of one of the authors; Vent was her last name, I believe! Uh, fascinating story!

The hosts discuss various theories surrounding the Shugborough Inscription, referencing the book 'The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail'. They explore a theory that the inscription is linked to the Priory of Sion and the Holy Grail, and also mention a previous interview with a relative of one of the book's authors.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Shugborough Inscription Cipher | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 2, 2024)

And you know, this is very Dan Brown! Dan Brown leans very heavily on this in one of his books, at least in The Da Vinci Code! And the idea is that this bloodline was, uh, secreted away!

The hosts are discussing a theory that Jesus had children, and they specifically mention Dan Brown's book 'The Da Vinci Code' as a popular work that explores this concept.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Shugborough Inscription Cipher | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 2, 2024)

It went mainstream when Dan Brown leveraged this concept for the basis of the Da Vinci Code, which is, um... I still think a solid, solid film, and I enjoyed the book. Uh, I would say I have not read the book, but the film I was happier than a lot of the critics about it.

The hosts are discussing the Priory of Scion theory and how it gained popularity through Dan Brown's book, 'The Da Vinci Code'. They reflect on their views of both the book and its film adaptation.

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Episode: My Momma Told Me, With Langston Kerman and David Gborie | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on October 1, 2024)

First episode of the podcast, Propaganda, available online.

In this episode, 'Stuff They Don't Want You To Know' references the book 'Propaganda,' which serves as an online resource. This mention might be connected to the earlier conversation about Edward Bernays, who is known as the 'Godfather of PR.'

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Episode: Listener Mail: Terrors of Adoption, Black Sludge is Poop | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 27, 2024)

I wrote an autobiography even and just labeled the worst as bad things because if I don't call it what it was, then I can pretend it didn't happen.

A listener discusses their experience of writing an 'autobiography' where they labeled the most difficult parts of their life as 'bad things' to help cope with the trauma.

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Episode: The Mystery of Nan Madol | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 26, 2024)

There's often a huge deal made in ancient alien shows or Time Life Mysteries of the Unknown.

The hosts are discussing the tendency for some media to create mystified narratives about how ancient structures were built. They reference 'Time Life Mysteries of the Unknown' as a well-known example.

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Episode: The Eternal Shadow: Serial Killers Throughout Ancient History | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 25, 2024)

So he is very, very well-connected, according to a book called Records of the Grand Historian; this guy was a monster!

The podcast hosts mention the book 'Records of the Grand Historian' as a source that provides insight into a historical figure, referring specifically to Le Pingley, who is described as a notorious character.

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Episode: The Eternal Shadow: Serial Killers Throughout Ancient History | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 25, 2024)

There's a fantastic book called, uh, Devil in the Shape of a Woman that looks at this practice in the Salem Witch Trials.

The podcast hosts mention a book titled 'Devil in the Shape of a Woman' to provide context on how historical accounts can be skewed, often relating to the Salem Witch Trials. They use this specific book as evidence of a recurring theme in history.

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Episode: The Eternal Shadow: Serial Killers Throughout Ancient History | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 25, 2024)

He believes that when there's economic downturn, especially on a wide scale, in any region or globally even or just in a town, the probability of creating a future serial killer who is going through this, uh, the economic downturn, all the realities that you face when that's happening, he believes that you increase the probability of creating serial killers, and in his opinion, he wrote a book called Sons of Cain, and in it, he describes how because of the financial crisis from 2007 to 2008, we are actually creating a new generation of serial killers, or we have generated essentially a new, uh, season of serial killers that will emerge 10, 20 years from now, and he believes that that economic downturn, at least in some way, helped to create those serial killers.

The hosts discuss Peter Vronsky, referencing a prior 'Zodiac Killer' episode. Vronsky argues that the economic crash of 2008 may lead to a rise in serial killers, a theory he outlines in his book 'Sons of Cain'. He explains that economic downturns can increase the probability of generating future serial killers.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Death of Diana: Accident or Conspiracy? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 21, 2024)

They were continually hunted by the press—if you've ever read Watership Down, there's a fantastic mythology that the rabbits in that story have about being the prince with a thousand enemies.

The hosts draw parallels between the relentless media pursuit of Diana and Dodie Fayed and the themes from the book 'Watership Down,' highlighting the mythology of rabbits facing countless adversaries.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Death of Diana: Accident or Conspiracy? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 21, 2024)

In 2007, he went ahead and published the book 'The Big Breach'.

The hosts highlight that Richard Tomlinson published a book called 'The Big Breach' in 2007.

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Episode: The Terrifying Future of Food | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 21, 2024)

Ben, what's that Stephen King short story where the doctor is stranded and he slowly starts cutting away pieces of himself to sustain his life? I think it's called Survivor type!

The podcast hosts discuss a Stephen King short story called Survivor Type, where a character slowly eats parts of their own body. The context of the discussion revolves around the desperation that starving people may face and the extreme measures they might take to survive.

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Episode: The Terrifying Future of Food | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 21, 2024)

I posit to you guys, this is what Orwell once upon a time described as a double plus ungood situation! This is like, you can just cut this out and just put it in the book where the definition is supposed to be!

The podcast hosts reference George Orwell's work, likely *Nineteen Eighty-Four*, by mentioning the term 'double plus ungood'. They're using this reference to emphasize the severity of the situation they are describing.

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Episode: Missing in Arizona, with Jon Walczak | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 20, 2024)

So one of the things with this show that I found really fascinating is I have a book sitting right behind me called 'Hide Your Assets and Disappear.' It was a best-selling book, I think, in 1999 or 2000. So I think it was possible that Robert Fisher got out in the nick of time.

In this segment, podcast guest John Walczak references the book 'Hide Your Assets and Disappear,' discussing its relevance to the case of Robert Fisher. He suggests that the book contains techniques that were advantageous for evading capture prior to the internet and social media era, highlighting the different circumstances surrounding Fisher's disappearance in 2001.

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Episode: The Future of Robot “Servants” | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 16, 2024)

Are you referring to Rossum's Universal Robots by Karel Čapek?

The podcast hosts are discussing the origin of the word 'robot' and referring to the play 'Rossum's Universal Robots' written by Karel Čapek as its source.

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Episode: The Future of Robot “Servants” | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 16, 2024)

And it sounds like a truism, but there's a reason people throw those phrases around! I think it's a Tyler Durden quote actually from Fight Club!

The podcast host mentions a quote from 'Fight Club,' a film that is based on the book by Chuck Palahniuk.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Project Monarch, Skyhook, and Venezuelan Gangs | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 15, 2024)

Hey guys, this is crazy Skip from Bal. I've read Kathy O'Brien's book Transformation of America three times. Her partner Mark Phillips saved her life.

A listener named crazy Skip shares his enthusiasm for Kathy O'Brien's book 'Transformation of America,' stating he has read it three times. He believes it contains factual information and points out that her partner, Mark Phillips, played a crucial role in saving her life.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Project Monarch, Skyhook, and Venezuelan Gangs | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 15, 2024)

The title is spelled trance, t-r-a-n-c-e space formation of America. Love it, so yeah, there are spaces between the other words, but just it's not transformation, it's transformation, and the subtitle is an MK Ultra mind control survivor, a whistleblower's true story.

The hosts discuss the correct spelling of the title, 'Trance Formation of America' by Kathy O'Brien, and its subtitle, 'an MK Ultra mind control survivor, a whistleblower's true story,' after receiving a message from a listener.

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Episode: The Dark Side of Adoption | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 12, 2024)

And another example historically speaking is of course Moses from the Bible, from the book of Exodus, who was found as a babe in the rushes or whatever and adopted by a powerful family and then ultimately became a pretty important political figure. Let's just say love it!

The podcast discusses the 'book of Exodus' in relation to the biblical narrative of Moses, highlighting his adoption into a powerful family. This reference is used to illustrate the concept of adoption within a significant historical context.

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Episode: The Dark Side of Adoption | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 12, 2024)

I mean, if anyone had a chance to see 'Killers of the Flower Moon', you see how that assimilation was utterly taken advantage of in order to rob these individuals of their tribal land and their wealth, especially in areas where that land may have sat upon oil reserves or other precious mining materials.

The podcast discusses the book 'Killers of the Flower Moon' in the context of how the assimilation of Native Americans was manipulated to dispossess them of their land and wealth, particularly where those lands had valuable resources like oil.

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Episode: CLASSIC: Canada's Roswell: The Shag Harbor Incident | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 11, 2024)

This is where we want to introduce our first book, the one that people would consider conspiratorial. Doug Ledger wrote a book called Maritime UFO Files, and in this book he claims that additional witnesses exist.

The podcast hosts reference a book titled 'Maritime UFO Files' authored by Doug Ledger. This book discusses claims of additional witnesses to the Shag Harbor incident and is characterized by a conspiratorial perspective.

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Episode: CLASSIC: Canada's Roswell: The Shag Harbor Incident | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 11, 2024)

Several weeks after the initial sighting, he co-wrote a book called Dark Object: The World's Only Government Documented UFO Crash. In this book, Styles and his co-author Doug Ledger from earlier, oh, the what was that book called, the Maritime UFO Files?

The podcast hosts reference a book titled 'Dark Object: The World's Only Government Documented UFO Crash' co-written by Chris Styles and Doug Ledger. The book explores the theory that the Shag Harbor incident involved an extraterrestrial spaceship that was submerged, tracked by the US Navy, and then launched into space. They also mention Doug Ledger's earlier book, 'Maritime UFO Files'.

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Episode: Election Monitoring and Conspiracies | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 7, 2024)

There was an excellent article by a guy named Joseph Siegel that references a book by a guy named Samuel Romani. And Romani writes about Russia in Africa—resurgent great power or bellicose pretender?

In this segment, the podcast hosts discuss an article by Joseph Siegel that references a book by Samuel Romani, titled 'Russia in Africa—resurgent great power or bellicose pretender?'. This book explores Russia's influence in African nations, which ties into the broader conversation about election interference.

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Episode: Listener Mail: The Social Security Hack, Mount Weather | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 6, 2024)

He has a book on it, the story of the U.S. government's secret plan to save itself while the rest of us die. So shout-out, shout-out to you, Garrett, because it's a great book, it's a gripping read, and Garrett is how I learned about Mount Weather.

The podcast host highlights a book by Garrett Graff that discusses the U.S. government's secret plan to ensure its survival while the general public might face peril. He mentions how he learned about Mount Weather from reading this gripping book.

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Episode: Listener Mail: The Social Security Hack, Mount Weather | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on September 6, 2024)

So I guess, I guess it was rumored back in '06, like if this was the place, but they reference in this article that there was a book called 7 Days in May where they reference inside this novel, they mention a place called Mount Thunder.

The host mentions that a book titled '7 Days in May' is referenced in a 2006 article, noting that the book includes a mention of Mount Thunder, which relates to Mt. Weather, the main topic of discussion in this episode.

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Episode: The Ica Stones, Part Two: Secrets Revealed | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 31, 2024)

I'm reading an Isaac Asimov book from 1950 right now. I know this is obvious for fans of science fiction, but I'm always blown away by how close they get it in the 50s, like what modern civilization looks like and what technology of the future actually looks like.

Matt, one of the podcast hosts, shares that he is currently reading an Isaac Asimov book from 1950. He reflects on how impressively accurate science fiction from that era can be in depicting future technology and modern civilization.

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Episode: The Ica Stones, Part Two: Secrets Revealed | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 31, 2024)

As Matt mentioned, oh my gosh, I'm reading the Foundation series. I accidentally bought the second one out of sequence and then realized that, so I ordered the first one, and now I'm starting fresh.

Ben, one of the podcast hosts, shares that he's currently reading 'the Foundation series.' He mentions accidentally buying the second book first and realizing his mistake, which led him to order the first book and start fresh.

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Episode: The Ica Stones, Part Two: Secrets Revealed | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 31, 2024)

We’ve made this a two-part episode; let’s get into it; what does he say in his book—the message of the engraved stones of Ica? Let’s take these one at a time; the first one is that the stones themselves are way older than you think.

In this episode, the hosts discuss the insights presented in the book "The Message of the Engraved Stones of Ica" by Dr. Javier Cabrera, who is known for advocating the authenticity of the Ica Stones as significant historical artifacts.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Pest Control; a Reptilian Contacts the Gang | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 30, 2024)

Yeah, to be specific Venezuela due to the, everybody read Confessions of an Economic Hitman first off! But Venezuela is having an economic collapse!

Ben recommends the book 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman' while discussing the economic collapse in Venezuela, highlighting its relevance as a context for the situation.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Pest Control; a Reptilian Contacts the Gang | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 30, 2024)

Um, I just, I want to understand the connection there because it made me think of a Neil Stephenson book called Ramdi where there's like these Chinese, like it's like a massive multiplayer online game and there's like gold farming that takes place and it's a way of like hiding criminal activity and like almost like a secret currency, you know, way of like, you know, paying for things with this like in-game currency!

Matt mentions the author Neal Stephenson while discussing a concept from one of his books, likely 'Snow Crash', about online games being used to disguise criminal activities.

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Episode: The Ica Stones, Part One: A Mysterious Origin Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 29, 2024)

Um, do you guys remember that book, 'Guns, Germs, and Steel'?

The hosts of the podcast discuss the book 'Guns, Germs, and Steel' by Jared Diamond, highlighting its relevance to the Spanish conquest of the Incan empire. This mention is framed around a conversation about the Incan civil war and the military advantages that allowed the Spanish to succeed.

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Episode: The Ica Stones, Part One: A Mysterious Origin Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 29, 2024)

I think so, we always talk about how the Song of Ice and Fire and all those George R.R. Martin books are heavily influenced and inspired by actual, you know, historical struggles and political maneuvers and all that stuff.

During the episode, the host discusses how the 'A Song of Ice and Fire' series by George R.R. Martin draws on real historical events and political strategies, illustrating the interplay between history and fiction.

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Episode: The Ica Stones, Part One: A Mysterious Origin Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 29, 2024)

It kind of reminds me of that hoax book that ultimately wasn't really a hoax at all people just kind of made much to do about it, uh, the Codex Seraphinus!

During a discussion, a host refers to the book 'Codex Seraphinianus,' drawing a connection between its strange imagery and the Ica stones, suggesting that the book is often surrounded by mystery and intrigue.

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Episode: CLASSIC: MKULTRA 201: The Conspiracies | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 25, 2024)

There's much, much more beneath the surface, and if you buy my book, you will learn it.

The hosts bring up the notion that conspiracy theorists leverage public information about MK Ultra as a basis to market their books, humorously suggesting that the true insights lie within these works.

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Episode: CLASSIC: MKULTRA 201: The Conspiracies | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 25, 2024)

She wrote a book called 'The Transformation of America.' Since this is an audio show, I just want to make sure you get the pun there: 'trance' as in hypnotic trance, and 'formation' as in an organization or group.

The podcast references Cathy O'Brien's book, 'The Transformation of America', which explores her experiences as a victim of Project Monarch mind control, highlighting the play on words between 'trance' and 'formation'.

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Episode: CLASSIC: MKULTRA 201: The Conspiracies | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 25, 2024)

Crowley also practiced some stuff like this, and the Illuminatus Trilogy, which is a fantastic work, also depicts this.

In this segment, the podcast highlights the book The Illuminatus! Trilogy, describing it as an engaging work of fiction that explores themes and practices reminiscent of those involved in Project Monarch.

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Episode: CLASSIC: MKULTRA 201: The Conspiracies | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 25, 2024)

And I've brought with me today an old friend of ours, this book, 'Outbreak: The Encyclopedia of Extraordinary Social Behavior,' which is about moral panics and how they spread!

In this segment, a host brings up the book 'Outbreak: The Encyclopedia of Extraordinary Social Behavior' to illustrate the concept of moral panics and the dynamics behind their spread.

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Episode: What exactly is ectoplasm? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 23, 2024)

Just know this, folks: every time you give us some of those stars in a review, our boss looks at a strange occult, Necronomicon-esque spreadsheet and says, 'We'll give them one more evening.'

The hosts humorously suggest that their boss consults a spreadsheet resembling the infamous Necronomicon when assessing their reviews.

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Episode: What exactly is ectoplasm? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 23, 2024)

There was a book that was originally published anonymously called "Revelations of a Spirit Medium," and it was like when a stage magician breaks the big code.

The hosts are discussing a book titled 'Revelations of a Spirit Medium,' which reveals the techniques used by spirit mediums to deceive the public.

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Episode: Hostile Climate: The Home Insurance Crisis | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 20, 2024)

It's from Lord of the Rings. This is a Gollum riddle.

During the episode, the podcast host references a well-known riddle from 'The Lord of the Rings,' specifically mentioning Gollum.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Plastic Bottle Sabotage, Blackstone and DNA | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 17, 2024)

It reminds me of that weaselly little academic in Silence of the Lambs, you know, the late great Hannibal. The late great who just wants to establish his reputation.

The podcast references 'The Silence of the Lambs' as a cultural touchstone while discussing a psychiatrist who may have misrepresented information from a bank hostage situation to enhance his career, drawing a comparison between the academic in the movie and a real-life figure.

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Episode: Leon G. Turrou: The Nazi Hunter | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 15, 2024)

It is true, though he did end up writing those newspaper articles; he wrote Nazi Spies in America.

The hosts discuss that Leon G. Turrou authored a book titled 'Nazi Spies in America', highlighting his connection to the subject through his newspaper articles.

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Episode: Leon G. Turrou: The Nazi Hunter | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 15, 2024)

There's this historian I've been reading, uh, Jeffery Jones, who wrote a book called "The FBI: A History" and several other articles.

In this segment, the hosts discuss the book 'The FBI: A History' authored by historian Jeffery Jones, which serves as a foundational reference for their exploration of the FBI's counter-espionage program.

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Episode: Leon G. Turrou: The Nazi Hunter | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 15, 2024)

He got a bronze star, wrote another book, and I haven't read this one; it's called "Where My Shadow Falls" in 1949. Um, I told you he's in the shadows, mhm.

The podcast hosts mention a second book written by Leon G. Turrou called 'Where My Shadow Falls', published in 1949. This is shared as part of describing his life of working in the shadows.

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Episode: CLASSIC: Who Killed Artemus Ogletree? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on August 14, 2024)

So first, what do you say, let's start with the maid's tale. If we want to make this Canterbury Tales-esque or a Hulu original, maybe?

The podcast hosts are discussing how to frame their story, suggesting that it could be styled to resemble 'The Canterbury Tales', which is a classic collection of stories by Geoffrey Chaucer.

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Episode: Strange News: Horrifying Discovery of a Kenyan Serial Killer | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on July 23, 2024)

Everybody read the book that we mentioned frequently a few years back, The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker. The idea of intuition is there.

In this segment, the podcast hosts discuss the concept of intuition and refer to 'The Gift of Fear' by Gavin de Becker, highlighting its relevance in their ongoing analysis, particularly in the context of the Kenyan serial killer case where intuition plays a significant role.

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Episode: Do fish ever really rain from the sky? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on July 20, 2024)

But we do owe a shout-out to the amazing author Cynthia Barnett, who wrote "Rain: A Natural and Cultural History." You guys know, longtime listeners, we love books about cartoonishly specific things!

In this segment, the hosts acknowledge the talented author Cynthia Barnett for her book "Rain: A Natural and Cultural History." They express their appreciation for the book's focus on a uniquely specific subject and share their enthusiasm for such literature.

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Episode: STDWYTK: Breaking: Someone Tried To Kill A President | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on July 18, 2024)

I just want to quickly give props to a guy, Jason Pargin, who I think you know. He's a writer and wrote that book John Dies at the End and is a thoughtful media critique YouTuber.

In this segment, the hosts recognize Jason Pargin as an influential writer and the author of 'John Dies at the End.' They highlight his thoughtful perspective on media critique, particularly in the context of how to approach breaking news events.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Drones and Insurance, Philly Bombed Civilians | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on July 7, 2024)

Yeah, Economics for Dummies, which I think is a mean non-answer when someone asks why the healthcare system is so broken. It's like, 'Let me Google that for you.'

During a discussion, the title 'Economics for Dummies' is referenced by host Ben as a sarcastic response to inquiries about the flaws in the healthcare system. He suggests it is a dismissive recommendation that fails to address the complexities of the issue.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Drones and Insurance, Philly Bombed Civilians | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on July 7, 2024)

No, the dummy series is a very helpful demystification tool.

The mention of the 'dummy series' refers to an educational tool that simplifies complex subjects, specifically citing 'Economics for Dummies' as an example.

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Episode: Crop Circles: Fact and Fiction | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on July 7, 2024)

Crop circles have fascinated people for a long time, and depending on when you grew up and what your predilections were like as a kid, you might be most familiar with crop circles in terms of fiction or in terms of books about the paranormal.

In this segment, the hosts are exploring how different individual experiences shape their understanding of crop circles. They highlight that people might come to know about crop circles through various media, particularly books about the paranormal, as part of a larger discussion on the diverse interpretations and perceptions surrounding crop circles.

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Episode: Crop Circles: Fact and Fiction | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on July 7, 2024)

They took a lot of, they thought it was hilarious that people would study these circles and then with strident confidence come out and say, 'This is what teaches us about the messages from the heavens.' And you know, 'This is ancient technology, buy my book and learn more about it.'

In this segment, the podcast host humorously discusses the exaggerated claims made about crop circles being messages from the heavens and ancient technology. They reference someone suggesting listeners buy their book to learn more about these claims, in the context of a conversation about the infamous hoaxers Doug and Dave.

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Episode: Project 2025: Should we be concerned? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on July 2, 2024)

The one people are referencing when they talk to you about Project 2025 is a thing called Mandate for Leadership: A Conservative Promise. Spoiler alert: it's about as long as the unabridged copy of The Stand by Stephen King!

In the episode, the hosts compare the length of the Project 2025 document 'Mandate for Leadership: A Conservative Promise' to that of Stephen King's novel 'The Stand,' noting that the document is about as lengthy as the unabridged edition of the book.

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Episode: Project 2025: Should we be concerned? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on July 2, 2024)

If I could just take this moment to recommend listening to the Ridiculous History episode with A.J. Jacobs about the Constitution and his book on living constitutionally, it's crazy what this guy did and wrote a book about it. Basically, to get to the letter of the intent of the Constitution, a lot of things we're talking about today come up in that episode.

The podcast host suggests that listeners check out a Ridiculous History episode featuring A.J. Jacobs, who discusses his book 'The Year of Living Constitutionally'. This book explores themes related to the Constitution, which parallel the discussions in the current episode.

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Episode: Project 2025: Should we be concerned? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on July 2, 2024)

There's an excellent novel by our pal Robert Evans, a good friend of the show, called It Could Happen Here. It is a continuing podcast as well, so please do check it out.

The podcast host highlights a book by Robert Evans titled 'It Could Happen Here' and emphasizes its relevance to the podcast's themes, also noting that it is part of a continuing podcast series.

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Episode: Why Freeports Are A Conspiracy | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on June 28, 2024)

Oh, guys, it just occurred to me– you know what else is another good free port that's in pop culture and literature? Interzone in William S. Burroughs' Naked Lunch is a free port, and it's like kind of a hive of scum and villainy situation that evolves around there.

In this segment, the hosts discuss 'Naked Lunch' by William S. Burroughs as an example of a fictional free port. They describe Interzone, the setting of the book, as a 'hive of scum and villainy,' illustrating the complexities and life experiences tied to such locations.

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Episode: Supplements, Part Two: Nootropics | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on June 20, 2024)

So we see the shadows of Limitless, we see the shadows of Flowers for Algernon. It is possible that people may be spending money on the chemical equivalent of Monkey Shines, but they feel different.

In this segment, the podcast hosts reference *Flowers for Algernon* while discussing the use of drugs to boost cognitive abilities. They draw parallels between this real-world issue and the storyline of the book, where the main character experiences an artificial increase in intelligence.

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Episode: Supplements, Part Two: Nootropics | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on June 20, 2024)

I just think it's interesting; just wanted to throw it in. Just read The Secret, you'll get all of this. And if you haven't read The Secret, you're not thinking in the right way to attract that book to you.

In this segment, the hosts humorously reference the book *The Secret*, which discusses the law of attraction. They suggest that reading this self-help book is essential for proper thinking to attract positive outcomes.

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Episode: Did Charles Manson work with the CIA? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on June 6, 2024)

And that's where we get the most widely accepted narrative, popularized by the book 'Helter Skelter' written by Vincent Bugliosi, which says, "Look, here's why these murders occurred: Manson was convinced the U.S. would be Ground Zero for a civilization-ending race war."

The podcast hosts discuss 'Helter Skelter' by Vincent Bugliosi, highlighting it as the most accepted narrative regarding the Manson murders and the theories behind Manson's motivations.

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Episode: Did Charles Manson work with the CIA? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on June 6, 2024)

Once you know book club, there's a book that came out in 2019 that Matt captured our attention.Oh yes.It is titled 'Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the 60s.'

In this segment, the podcast hosts discuss the book 'Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties' by Tom O'Neill, which provides insights into Charles Manson's potential connections to the CIA and challenges the traditional narrative surrounding him.

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Episode: Did Charles Manson work with the CIA? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on June 6, 2024)

This is up there with Truman Capote in 'In Cold Blood' in terms of the level of public interest in what we call true crime.

The podcast host discusses the book 'In Cold Blood' by Truman Capote while illustrating the significant public interest in true crime stories, particularly in relation to Charles Manson.

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Episode: Cryptids of India: an Untold Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on May 23, 2024)

And it's weird; when you look at what he writes in Natural History, he is kind of the first cryptozoologist; like, the scholarly burden of proof is not really a thing, so this guy is just sort of like when Freud was making up psychoanalysis.

During the episode, the hosts discuss the writings of Pliny the Elder, particularly his book 'Natural History', highlighting his contributions to early cryptozoology and how his descriptions relate to the study of cryptids.

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Episode: Cryptids of India: an Untold Story | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on May 23, 2024)

The earliest mention of it comes from another ancient historian, a Greek named Ctesias, who wrote a book called Indica in the fifth century BCE. The book, which translates to 'the couch,' is unfortunately lost to history.

In this segment, the hosts discuss the Greek historian Ctesias and his book 'Indica,' highlighting it as the earliest reference to the Manore cryptid while pointing out that the text has unfortunately been lost to history.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Truth Behind the Salem Witch Trials | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on May 4, 2024)

Again, I hark back to what Dr. Baker wrote in his book, The Storm of Witchcraft; he provides a great introduction that describes it as the 'perfect storm' of all these elements that come together.

In this segment, the hosts and guest delve into the intricate dynamics of the Salem Witch Trials. They reference Dr. Baker's book, 'The Storm of Witchcraft,' highlighting how it encapsulates the various contributing factors that led to these historical events.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Truth Behind the Salem Witch Trials | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on May 4, 2024)

This also reminds me of a work by Carol Carlson, 'The Devil in the Shape of a Woman,' that I wanted to ask you about.

In this segment, the hosts reflect on Carol Carlson's book titled 'The Devil in the Shape of a Woman,' which examines the gender roles prevalent during the Salem Witch Trials.

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Episode: What was Operation Northwoods? | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on May 3, 2024)

Yeah, it’s all spelled out in 1984, the documentary.

The podcast host refers to the book '1984' by George Orwell, using it to illustrate a strange situation and possible corruption.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Dog Farts or Ghosts? The Korean 4B Movemen | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on April 26, 2024)

No, but he did publish a book in 2005 called 'Wake Up, Survive and Prosper in the Coming Economic Turmoil.' This guy loves New Zealand.

During the discussion, Mr. Melon, the chairman of the board at Li Genesis, is referenced as the author of a book published in 2005 titled 'Wake Up, Survive and Prosper in the Coming Economic Turmoil.' This point is raised while talking about the leadership of the company.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Dog Farts or Ghosts? The Korean 4B Movemen | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on April 26, 2024)

Deep in 2020 he wrote a book called 'Moos Law.' Uh, Investors' Guide to the New Agrarian Revolution.

In 2020, Mr. Melon, who is the chairman of the board at Li Genesis, authored a book titled 'Moos Law.' The discussion revolves around the backgrounds of individuals involved with the company, and this mention highlights Mr. Melon's contributions.

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Episode: Drugs as Weapons | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on April 20, 2024)

And then I didn't know this, but there's this author, David A. Price, who has a book called Love and Hate in Jamestown, and in this book, which I haven't finished, he makes a pretty fascinating case.

In this segment, the hosts discuss a book called 'Love and Hate in Jamestown' written by David A. Price. They mention that the author presents an intriguing argument regarding Chief Powhatan using a toxic hallucinogen against the Jamestown Colony, and one of the hosts admits they have not finished reading the book.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Best/Worst Candy, Human Cloning Puns | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on April 19, 2024)

We agree with you, Full Body Taste; it does raise a lot of fascinating questions. There are some holes in 'Helter Skelter.' Tom O'Neal is writing in good faith; he spent decades researching these links, and he had a lot of falling out situations with various publishers.

In this episode, the hosts discuss the book 'Helter Skelter,' addressing some inconsistencies or 'holes' in its narrative concerning the Charles Manson case. They highlight Tom O'Neal's extensive research and the challenges he faced with publishers.

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Episode: Listener Mail: Best/Worst Candy, Human Cloning Puns | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on April 19, 2024)

Sorry, Christian Bible, we're going with 'Operation Chaos'; that's the one book we're going to read. So while we are getting a copy of that, we want to hear from you folks.

The hosts of the podcast humorously choose to read 'Operation Chaos' for their upcoming book club, opting for it over the Christian Bible.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Mysterious Death of Biohacker Aaron Traywick | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on April 17, 2024)

And there's this notable book called 'Going Off the Grid' or possibly 'Playing Dead,' which discusses the challenges of successfully committing pseudocide.

In this segment, the hosts discuss a book titled 'Going Off the Grid,' which explores the concept of pseudocide, the act of faking one's death. They highlight its relevance to the case of Aaron Traywick, who died under suspicious circumstances, raising questions about whether he might have orchestrated a similar disappearance.

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Episode: CLASSIC: The Mysterious Death of Biohacker Aaron Traywick | STUFF THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW (Published on April 17, 2024)

And there's this notable book called 'Going Off the Grid' or possibly 'Playing Dead,' which discusses the challenges of successfully committing pseudocide.

The hosts mention a book titled 'Playing Dead'—and possibly 'Going Off the Grid'—which explores the complexities of faking one's own death, a concept known as pseudocide. This book is particularly relevant to their discussion about whether Aaron Traywick could have staged his own death, given the suspicious circumstances surrounding his actual passing.

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