Episode · The Megyn Kelly Show · 2024-12-11
Megyn Kelly & Dr. Leonard Sax: books mentioned on The Megyn Kelly Show #962
Why CEO Killer Snapped, Dangers of "Gentle" Parenting, and Rise of "Normophobia," with Dr. Leonard Sax and Candice DeLong | Ep. 962
Megyn Kelly is joined by Candice DeLong, host of "Killer Psyche," to talk about the shocking new details about the Ivy League-educated man Luigi Mangione accused of killing the healthcare CEO, whether
Megyn Kelly recommended The Collapse of Parenting by Leonard Sax, and discussed Bad Therapy by Abigail Shrier and Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier. Leonard Sax discussed The Evolution of Childhood by Melvin Konner and The Magician's Nephew by C. S. Lewis.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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The Collapse of Parenting
The Collapse of Parenting by Leonard Sax examines how modern cultural pressures and the shift toward permissive child-rearing harm youth development.
Recommended“With me today is Dr. Leonard Sax; he is the author of the book 'The Collapse of Parenting: How We Hurt Our Kids When We Treat Them Like Grown-Ups', which has just been updated this year.”
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The Evolution of Childhood
Discussed“we don't have to guess we have Scholars like Dr Melvin Connor Emory who spent his entire career decades studying this question and published this huge tone 800 Pages Oxford University press uh titled the evolution of childhood comparing development of our species with development of other species”
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The Magician's Nephew
The Magician's Nephew by C.
Discussed“70 years ago CS Lewis wrote this book for kids uh The Magician's Nephew and and he said the the the problem about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed”
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Bad Therapy
Bad Therapy by Abigail Shrier is a nonfiction book that examines modern mental health practices and argues that excessive therapy and over-parenting are harming children and hindering their emotional growth.
Discussed“Abigail shrier wrote a book about this recently uh bad therapy”
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Irreversible Damage
Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier is a 2020 non-fiction book that explores the social contagion aspect of gender dysphoria, focusing on the sudden, massive surge in teenage girls identifying as transgender.
Discussed“Abigail Shrier wrote a book about this recently, 'Bad Therapy.' But more and more the schools—especially, I will say, the girls' schools—want the kids to discuss trauma!”
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Other mentions in this episode (9) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“Yes, absolutely I think it's such an illuminating story And I've seen this so much in my own practice as a family doctor now for more than 30 years So many boys want to be heroes They want to be seen as heroes They want to see themselves as heroes in their own eyes You know, I spoke some years”
“And again, that's going back to my book Boys A Drift where I talk about good role models Men like Dietrich Bonhoeffer who gave his life for the right cause Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a pastor He had a comfortable job preaching in New Jersey in 1938 and left that job, went back to Nazi Germany Put his life in jeopardy”
“And to those parents, you say I would say I would come back to the central key point that I try to make in the new edition of my book, The Collapse of Parenting, which is that central paradox of American parenting right now Which is that parents are spending more time and more money on their kids than parents”
“So there are different factors affecting boys and girls—that's why I wrote a book called Boys Adrift and a book for girls called Girls on the Edge. I also wrote a book called Why Gender Matters.”
“The first edition of Why Gender Matters had half a paragraph on transgender issues. Then the publisher, Penguin Random House, asked me to write a new edition, which I devoted much time to transgender topics because now it's a thing.”
“In my book, Why Gender Matters, I remind parents that girls develop faster than boys.”
“We have lost that, and you and I cannot change Hollywood, but we can create a culture of respect in our own homes. That's what I'm trying to do in my book, The Collapse of Parenting.”
“Don't listen to the New York Times; don't listen to National Public Radio; do your job as a parent. That's the message I'm trying to communicate in my book, The Collapse of Parenting!”
“And yes, absolutely, and you'll find that research in my book 'The Collapse of Parenting.'”



