Episode · The Rubin Report · 2026-10-23
Dave Rubin & Andy Ngo: books mentioned on The Rubin Report (Oct 2026)
The True Crime Story of a Trans Cult Linked to a String of Brutal Murders | Andy Ngo
Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Andy Ngo about his new true crime book "The Zizians: Inside a Trans Death Cult"; his investigation into the Zizians, a radical fringe group linked to multiple
Dave Rubin discussed The Zizians by Andy Ngo.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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The Zizians
The Zizians by Andy Ngo is a true crime investigation into an online extremist group and trans death cult.
Discussed“Um, is that something that you write about in the book or is that or is there any sort of offshoot element connection to any of this with that?”
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Other mentions in this episode (10) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
Plugged The Zizians
“I'm Dave Rubin and joining me is my old friend Andy No. author of the new book, The Zizians: Inside a Trans Death Cult, which I assume is a comedy.”
Plugged The Zizians
“So this book the genre is true crime. I don't have a background in true crime at all. You know of my reporting as Antifa and the violent far left.”
Plugged The Zizians
“And that turned into this book. And um the Zizians, which we'll get into the story, I do want to emphasize that even though they are an example of a radical infringe group, they do fit into a larger pattern of trans violence.”
Plugged The Zizians
“Which I also document in this book because the Zizians they have their origins in Silicon Valley.”
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“this book actually in one of the chapters I look at the academic literature that could perhaps provide some answers.”
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“There are other variables here which I also explore in the book.”
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“And so part of what motivated me and pushed me through writing this book because it it was a very soul crushing thing. It's so depressing when when you're looking when the stuff I was uncovering”
Plugged The Zizians
“It's not just a story about a cult. There have been many cults in America and around the world. Yes. But the cult fits into a larger pattern.”
Plugged The Zizians
“Yeah, this book really it really nearly broke me. Um, it I think once people read it and see the depravity of what happened, they'll understand what I mean.”
Plugged The Zizians
“I'm still feeling um I'm like traumatized by this book writing actually and the fact and the the dedication to the book by the way is is for the victims and those who are and their family members who are still seeking answers”