Episode · The Daily Stoic · 2024-11-25
Ryan Holiday & Donald Robertson: books mentioned on The Daily Stoic (Nov 2024)
Socrates and His Impact on Stoicism | Donald Robertson
Donald Robertson discussed The Death of Socrates by Emily R. Wilson and 12 Rules for Life by Jordan B. Peterson. Ryan Holiday discussed The Trial of Socrates by I. F. Stone and Meditations by Aurelius Marcus.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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The Death of Socrates
Discussed“So I was reading Emily Wilson's book, The Case Against Socrates, which I thought was interesting because she famously has this biography of Seneca, and they're both pretty negative.”
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The Trial of Socrates
Discussed“it was interesting to read like kind of a a a Steelman case against Socrates which is what I kind of felt like she was doing there if Stones book The Trial of Socrates or something like that it's called where he deliberately sets out to of portray him as guilty yeah to convict him”
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12 Rules for Life
12 Rules for Life by Jordan B.
Discussed“weirdly it reminded me of something that is Maybe one of the bestselling modern self-help books which does the complet because it does the complete opposite right Jordan Peterson's 12 roles right literally consists of a set of formulaic roles yeah and not only that the forward to it valorizes the whole concept of having rigid formulaic roles to follow”
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Meditations
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius is a collection of personal journals and philosophical notes written by the Roman emperor during his military campaigns, offering profound insights into Stoic philosophy, self-discipline, and personal endurance.
Discussed“one of my favorite passages in meditations is where Mark sort of lists a bunch of great conquerors and Generals uh and then he lists a bunch of philosophers and I think he ends with Socrates and he says ultimately Socrates is the greater because his mind was his own”
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