Episode · Behind the Bastards · 2024-06-11
Books mentioned on Part Three: Thomas Jefferson: King of Hypocrites
Robert and Prop talk about Jefferson's wild years as a slavery debate bro in Paris, and also the fact that he was for sure a pedophile. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Robert Evans recommended Master of the mountain by Henry Wiencek, and discussed Jefferson and his time by Dumas Malone, Notes on the state of Virginia by Thomas Jefferson and others, and American Sphinx by Joseph J. Ellis.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Master of the mountain
Recommended“and I one of the reasons I like Henry wein sec's book master of the mountain is that he reflects on the complex dimensions of this relationship with a line that I think is really useful to parsing out what's going on here on a moral level”
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Jefferson and his time
Discussed“Very much so, the 1890s, Dumas Malone writes a six volume history of Thomas Jefferson. This is generally considered to be like the first definitive biography of Jefferson.”
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Notes on the state of Virginia
Discussed“No, at all. Yeah. Malone goes on to quote another line from Notes on the State of Virginia, which he describes as perhaps the most erudite summary of the evil of slavery: And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these”
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American Sphinx
Discussed“and that is contrary to how he is depicted even in Ellis's Book American Sphinx he this long passage where he he's like there was no such thing as good slavery like it was bad and it was hypocritical of Jefferson but among people who owned people in the Americas he treated the people he owned better than most”
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