Episode · The Joe Rogan Experience · 2026-02-13

Joe Rogan & Robert Malone: books mentioned on The Joe Rogan Experience #2454

#2454 - Robert Malone, MD

3 books · With Robert Malone · Listen · Watch on YouTube

Robert W. Malone, MD, MS, is a virologist and immunologist and an original inventor of mRNA delivery and vaccination as a technology, DNA vaccination, and multiple non-viral DNA and RNA/mRNA platform delivery technologies.

Robert Malone discussed The Psychology of Totalitarianism by Mattias Desmet. Joe Rogan recommended Gattaca by Howard Mahmood and Dissolving Illusions by Suzanne Humphries and others.

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

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  1. The Psychology of Totalitarianism

    Mattias Desmet · at 23:34

    The Psychology of Totalitarianism by Mattias Desmet is an academic and cultural analysis examining how societal mass formation and ideological compliance pave the way for totalitarian governance.

    Discussed
    “Not allowed to teach his own book on the psychological basis of totalitarianism where which is where that book had not come out yet, but it was uh the mass formation hypothesis is what was the kind of core of that book that's now published and and widely regarded.”
    Where to get it
  2. Gattaca

    Howard Mahmood · at 2:06:51

    Gattaca is a science fiction film about a dystopian future where children are genetically engineered for perfection and natural-born citizens face systemic discrimination.

    Recommended
    “Do you remember Did you watch the movie Gattaca? Yeah. Gattaca, absolutely recommended. If you want to understand our brave new world, the one that's really coming at us and the ethical conundrums associated with that, watch Gattaca.”
    Where to get it
  3. Dissolving Illusions

    Suzanne Humphries; Roman Bystrianyk · at 2:14:31

    Dissolving Illusions by Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk is a controversial book that examines the history of vaccination, infectious diseases, and public health policies.

    Recommended
    “Well, I had Suzanne Humphries on who wrote that book Dissolving Illusions. Uh-huh. And you know, that that book is a must-read for anybody who wants to really understand the history of vaccines and what really happened in terms of the end of pandemics and the introduction of these vaccines.”
    Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
Plugged The New World Order
“And when that conversation happened, frankly, I hadn't we hadn't launched the book yet, CyWar, which is our most recent publication.”