Episode · The Joe Rogan Experience · 2022-06-09
Joe Rogan & Bobby Azarian: books mentioned on The Joe Rogan Experience #1829
Joe Rogan Experience #1829 - Bobby Azarian
Bobby Azarian discussed A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking, What is Life? by Erwin Schrödinger, The Emergence of Everything by Harold J. Morowitz, The global brain by Howard K. Bloom, and You Are the Universe by Deepak Chopra and others.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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A Brief History of Time
Discussed“um so most of the popular books at that time like that was like you know i graduated high school in like 1999 and so popular books were like stephen hawking's a brief history and time”
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What is Life?
Discussed“and erwin schrodinger one of the founders of quantum mechanics actually wrote a very influential book on biology called what is life”
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The Emergence of Everything
Discussed“and so he had a book called the emergence of everything which was like looking at the big picture because life is one emergence consciousness is another emergence”
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The global brain
Discussed“i guess you've had on the show a friend of mine howard bloom he has a book called the global global brain and it's all about how you know in certain instances animals will like for example sacrifice themselves uh even when it isn't you know to the benefit of propagating their genes”
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You Are the Universe
Discussed“yeah this guy who did deepak chopra wrote a book with a physicist menace kofatos and the guy is called you are the universe and uh we got that guy and he's a pro”
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Other mentions in this episode (12) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“well when i got the request and i read the the title and the subject of your book i was immediately hooked i was like dude i gotta get this guy in quickly the romance of reality how the universe organizes itself to create life consciousness and cosmic complexity”
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“like how long did you theorize about this like what what led you to write a book about this”
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“and i argue in the book that single-celled organisms probably are not conscious”
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“yeah so what i argue in the book is that basically to have a self to have an observer or an eye some sort of witness to this experience it's not good enough to just store some sort of model of the world”
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“and this book takes that statement very seriously it says it's not just poetry literally the universe is coming to life not in this pan psychic view that you know kind of says the universe is already conscious i don't think that's as interesting”
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“um so yeah it sounds like it when i say that there are all these different options as to why there could be this fine-tuning um but while the story i'm telling in the book is purely mechanistic so you can describe this process which i think is very spiritual and psychedelic it's um also something that you know you”
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“so there is a trajectory that the book argues does argues is inevitable”
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“because so one thing i talk about in the book is complexity is kind of a function of a couple of things for system to be like optimally complex it has to have a lot of parts and those parts have to be connected”
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“so one thing that i talk about in the book is how basically we can look at evolutionary principles because evolution is really optimizing systems to be as robust and energy efficient and stable as possible we can look at these systems we can look at how brains work and we can try to model society after those principles”
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“so that's why i call the book the romance of reality there's this intrinsic mystery”
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“and and this this theory that you know i describe in the book is definitely not saying there's anything like that it's actually very important that we understand that like for this global super organism that's emerging that is human civilization you need diversity”
Plugged The Romance of Reality
“when you write a book like this how do you know when you're done this seems like i got a good ques i got a good answer for that”