Episode · Breaking Points · 2026-02-12
Books mentioned on 'It Could Happen Here': Nuremberg Psychologist DIRE Warning From Grave
Emily Jashinsky discussed The Nazi and the Psychiatrist by Jack El-Hai. Jack L. High discussed The Lobotomist by Jack El-Hai and 22 Cells in Nuremberg by Douglas McGlashan Kelley.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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The Nazi and the Psychiatrist
The Nazi and the Psychiatrist by Jack El-Hai is a non-fiction work examining the fateful meeting between Nazi war criminal Hermann Göring and Army psychiatrist Dr.
Discussed“Let's put it up here on the screen, The Nazi and the Psychiatrist, Hermann Göring, Dr. Douglas M. Kelley, and a fatal meeting of minds at the end of World War II.”
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The Lobotomist
The Lobotomist by Jack El-Hai is a biographical examination of Walter Freeman and the history of the lobotomy procedure.
Discussed“I was working on an earlier book about another psychiatrist. That book's called The Lobotomist.”
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22 Cells in Nuremberg
Discussed“But you're right, his life began a downward spiral once his book 22 Cells in Nuremberg came out in 1947.”
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