Episode · Lenny's Podcast · 2026-09-08

Lenny Rachitsky & Roman Ugarte: books mentioned on Lenny's Podcast

How we built Grok Bot in a month | Roman Ugarte (SpaceXAI)

2 books · With Roman Ugarte · Listen · Watch on YouTube

Roman Ugarte helped incubate and build Grok Bot, the popular new knowledge-work agent from SpaceXAI. A small, isolated team took it from first line of code to a working internal product in four weeks, and to a hugely successful public launch just three weeks later.

Roman Ugarte recommended Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut and others and The War of Art by Steven Pressfield.

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

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  1. Cat's Cradle

    Kurt Vonnegut; Martí Sales Sariola · at 1:18:29

    Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut is a satirical postmodern novel exploring themes of science, technology, religion, and human folly through the invention of a dangerous ice-like substance.

    Recommended
    “One is I love Kerbonagget. Uh, so Cat's Cradle has been a fun fun recommendation that and a copy that I bought many friends before.”
    Where to get it
  2. The War of Art

    Steven Pressfield · at 1:18:40

    The War of Art by Steven Pressfield is a widely praised guide that explores the creative process, the nature of artistic struggle, and how to conquer the internal mental blocks that prevent people from doing their best work.

    Recommended
    “And then second is The War of Art by Steven Presfield, uh, that I find myself frequently coming back to, even if it's just a page or two at a time. Um, and I'd recommend for anybody.”
    Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
Passing Desiderata
“Um but I love the desiderata which I don't know if you've read but um I have it on my on my door uh and I've had it since I was a teenager and everywhere I move I kind of paste it there and it's it's a very short poem”