Episode · Lenny's Podcast · 2025-06-15

Lenny Rachitsky & Hilary Gridley: books mentioned on Lenny's Podcast

How to build a team that can “take a punch”: A playbook for building resilient, high-performing teams | Hilary Gridley (Head of Core Product, Whoop)

3 books · With Hilary Gridley · Listen · Watch on YouTube

Hilary Gridley is the Head of Core Product at WHOOP and a passionate thought leader in leveraging AI to elevate product teams and management practices.

Hilary Gridley recommended East of Eden by John Steinbeck and The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway. Lenny Rachitsky discussed Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy.

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

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  1. East of Eden

    John Steinbeck · at 1:44:59

    East of Eden by John Steinbeck is a sprawling modern classic that updates the biblical story of Cain and Abel to twentieth-century California.

    Recommended
    “I'm like uh I'm gonna go full fiction on this. I'm gonna say if you're going to read a book, like you don't bother reading a business book. Like I even the business books I love the most that like shaped how I think.”
    Where to get it
  2. The Sun Also Rises

    Ernest Hemingway · at 1:44:59

    The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway is a classic novel that captures the disillusionment of the Lost Generation through the experiences of expatriates traveling to Pamplona for the running of the bulls.

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    “But fiction I'm like everybody should read East of Eden by John Steinbeck and everybody should read The Sun Alter Rises by Ernest Hemingway. Uh it is like my comfort book.”
    Where to get it
  3. Anna Karenina

    Leo Tolstoy · at 1:46:47

    Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy is a monumental nineteenth-century masterpiece that explores tragic themes of love, infidelity, social class, and human psychology in imperial Russia.

    Discussed
    “I think you'll be proud of me. I'm reading Anna Karen in there right now. Oh, I was I literally I That's the book that I'm bringing on vacation with me tomorrow.”
    Where to get it