Episode · The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett · 2025-08-04
Steven Bartlett & Mo Gawdat: books mentioned on The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett (Aug 2025)
Ex-Google Exec (Mo Gawdat) on AI: The Next 15 Years Will Be Hell Before We Get To Heaven… And Only These 5 Jobs Will Remain!
Mo Gawdat sounded the alarm on AI, and now he’s back with an even bigger warning: AI will cause global collapse, destroy jobs, and launch us into a 15-year dystopia that will change everything. Mo Gawdat is back!
Steven Bartlett discussed Scary Smart by Mo Gawdat and The Coming Wave by Mustafa Suleyman and others. Mo Gawdat discussed 1984 by George Orwell.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Scary Smart
Scary Smart by Mo Gawdat is a thought-provoking book written by a former Google executive that outlines the rapid rise of artificial intelligence and warns that the next few decades will present profound challenges for humanity before we can navigate safely.
Discussed“Mo, two years ago today, we sat here and discussed AI. We discussed your book, Scary, Smart, and everything that was happening in the world.”
Where to get it
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1984
1984 by George Orwell is a classic dystopian novel depicting a totalitarian regime characterized by extreme surveillance, historical denial, and psychological manipulation.
Discussed“You you remember 1984 and the Orwellian approach of like you know freedom is slavery and war is peace”
Where to get it
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The Coming Wave
The Coming Wave by Mustafa Suleyman and Michael Bhaskar is a critical examination of artificial intelligence and synthetic biology, warning of the immense disruptive power these technologies pose to global stability and society.
Discussed“He was in the coming wave. I did. Yeah. And he speaks about about pessimism aversion.”
Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“One is remember when we spoke about scary smart I was still saying that there are things we can do to change the course.”