Episode · The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett · 2025-08-04
Books mentioned on Ex-Google Exec (Mo Gawdat) on AI: The Next 15 Years Will Be Hell Before We Get To Heaven… And Only These 5 Jobs Will Remain!
Mo Gawdat sounded the alarm on AI, and now he’s back with an even bigger warning: AI will cause global collapse, destroy jobs, and launch us into a 15-year dystopia that will change everything. Mo Gawdat is back!
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Scary Smart
Scary Smart by Mo Gawdat is a thought-provoking book written by a former Google executive that outlines the rapid rise of artificial intelligence and warns that the next few decades will present profound challenges for humanity before we can navigate safely.
Discussed“I know that you've started writing a new book called Alive, which is I guess a bit of a follow on or an evolution of your thoughts as it relates to scary smart.”
Where to get it
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1984
1984 by George Orwell is a classic dystopian novel depicting a totalitarian regime characterized by extreme government surveillance, historical negationism, and psychological manipulation.
Discussed“You you remember 1984 and the Orwellian approach of like you know freedom is slavery and war is peace”
Where to get it
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The Coming Wave
The Coming Wave by Mustafa Suleyman and Michael Bhaskar examines the profound societal transformations driven by rapid technological breakthroughs, particularly artificial intelligence, and explores the critical challenges of containing these powerful systems.
Discussed“He was in the coming wave. I did. Yeah. And he speaks about about pessimism aversion.”
Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“One is remember when we spoke about scary smart I was still saying that there are things we can do to change the course.”


