Episode · Lenny's Podcast · 2026-02-12

Lenny Rachitsky & Sherwin Wu: books mentioned on Lenny's Podcast

“Engineers are becoming sorcerers” | The future of software development with OpenAI’s Sherwin Wu

5 books · With Sherwin Wu · Listen · Watch on YouTube

Sherwin Wu leads engineering for OpenAI’s API platform, where roughly 95% of engineers use Codex, often working with fleets of 10 to 20 parallel AI agents. We discuss: 1.

Sherwin Wu recommended There Is No Antimemetics Division, Breakneck by Dan Wang, and Apple in China by Patrick McGee, and discussed Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, second edition by Harold Abelson and others and The Mythical Man-Month by Frederick P. Brooks Jr..

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

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  1. Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, second edition

    Harold Abelson; Gerald Jay Sussman · at 8:42

    Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs by Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman is a classic foundational textbook exploring the core principles of computer science and software engineering.

    Discussed
    “So structure and interpretation of computer programs. So SICP. At MIT it was really popular and it was actually used as the introductory textbook for the intro programming course for a very long time.”
    Where to get it
  2. The Mythical Man-Month

    Frederick P. Brooks Jr. · at 32:50

    The Mythical Man-Month by Frederick P. Brooks Jr. is a foundational text on software engineering and project management that explores the complexities of team scaling and scheduling.

    Discussed
    “The way that I think about it is kind of come back to this analogy of software engineer as a surgeon, which comes from the mythical man book. So, it's actually it's funny. So I pull it from the book”
    Where to get it
  3. There Is No Antimemetics Division

    Qntm · at 1:11:54

    There Is No Antimemetics Division by qntm is a science fiction work centered around a secretive government agency tasked with managing dangerous concepts that inherently erase themselves from human memory.

    Recommended
    “The fiction book was I just finished reading it. I really recommend it. It’s uh there is no anti-mimetics division by Q&M. It’s a science fictiony kind of book.”
    Where to get it
  4. Breakneck

    Dan Wang · at 1:12:44

    Breakneck by Dan Wang is a book examining the political economy, manufacturing prowess, and technological ambitions of China compared to the United States.

    Recommended
    “So in the last year I've been reading a lot more about China and kind of like the US China relations. And I think there are two books that came out in the last year that have been really really eye opening for me in that regard. First one is the Dan Wang book breakneck.”
    Where to get it
  5. Apple in China

    Patrick McGee · at 1:13:15

    Apple in China by Patrick McGee is a nonfiction book examining how Apple's manufacturing ties to China transformed the company and the global economy.

    Recommended
    “And the other one is the Patrick McGee book on Apple and China was super super interesting. I'm a huge Apple fanboy. Like, it was just super fascinating learning about Apple's relationship to China.”
    Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
Passing The Sorcerer's Apprentice
“I particularly like the wizard and the sorcery analogy because I think our current state is starting to move towards the sorcerer's apprentice, you know, from Fantasia, where Mickey Mouse is like, you know, he finds the sorcerer hat”