Episode · This Week in Startups · 2019-10-23

Jason Calacanis & Tim Junio: books mentioned on This Week in Startups

E992: The Next Unicorns: Expanse CEO & Co-founder Tim Junio reduces exposure to online threats by providing "attack surface visibility", shares insights into current threats from China & Russia, potential 2020 election tampering, reasons for cybersecu

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0:50 Jason intros Tim Junio 1:44 Tim explains what Expanse does and how "attack surface inventory" is the first step in their cybersecurity platform 5:20 Tim explains the Dyn cyber attack 13:20 How many Fortune 500 companies have been blackmailed via cyber attack?

Tim Junio discussed The Cuckoo's Egg by Cliff Stoll, Dictatorships and double standards by Jeane Kirkpatrick, and Wilderness of Mirrors by David C. Martin. Jason Calacanis discussed Applied Cryptography by Bruce Schneier.

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

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  1. The Cuckoo's Egg

    Cliff Stoll · at 30:57

    The Cuckoo's Egg by Cliff Stoll is a classic 1989 autobiographical account written by an astronomer at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory who famously tracked down a dangerous computer hacker after noticing a tiny seventy-five-cent accounting discrepancy in his computing billing records.

    Discussed
    “the moonlight Mays yes which was suspected Russian intrusions into US government networks so that's where I think the alarm bells started going off where before that it was an understood threat but it was kind of a niche right so there's this book called Cuckoo's egg it's one of the yeah cliff stall one of the most famous books”
    Where to get it
  2. Dictatorships and double standards

    Jeane Kirkpatrick · at 39:29

    Discussed
    “and there was a whole theory including in you know the 80s in the Reagan administration that we should support dictatorships because eventually they'll become democracies so Jean Kirkpatrick wrote a book dictatorships and double standards which was all about how communist governments don't have a path to Liberty but dictatorships do”
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  3. Applied Cryptography

    Bruce Schneier · at 42:33

    Discussed
    “the sky Bruce Schneier who's a very famous security engineer actually wrote basically the text book in 1994 called applied cryptography I think that's when it was published has a blog called Shire on security very influential guy and despite over the course of decades being a voice regarding internet security software security advocates paper ballots”
    Where to get it
  4. Wilderness of Mirrors

    David C. Martin · at 53:19

    Discussed
    “ours wilderness of mirrors is an expression that refers to counterintelligence it's the name of a book that's a history or biography of this guy who's a famous counterintelligence guy James Jesus Angleton a wilderness of mirrors is just like think every reflection is it real or is it not real right what's the truth behind all these images that”
    Where to get it
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Passing 1984
“and I think we're seeing a weird new export market of China selling that surveillance technology so we're in this 1984 kind of situation where when the internet was first a big thing in the early 90s political scientists thought that 1984 could never happen it was no different universe”