Episode · Lex Fridman Podcast · 2024-03-22

Books mentioned on #420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

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Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of “Nuclear War: A Scenario” and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – HiddenLayer: https://hiddenlayer.

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

  1. Area 51

    Annie Jacobsen, Annie Jacobsen · at 1:40:59 · mentioned 2 times

    Area 51 by Annie Jacobsen is an investigative non-fiction book that explores the history, top-secret projects, and government operations associated with the famous military installation in Nevada.

    Discussed
    “I mean, my first learning about the CIA came from the work I did on the "Area 51" book about their aerial reconnaissance programs, which were set up again to prevent World War III, nuclear World War III.”
    Where to get it
  2. Nuclear War

    Annie Jacobsen · at 24:04 · mentioned 3 times

    Nuclear War by Annie Jacobsen is a non-fiction scenario-based book detailing the catastrophic sequence of events that would unfold during a global nuclear exchange.

    Discussed
    “I think the sense-making part of this is really what I'm after in this book, because I want people to understand, on the one hand, it's incredibly simple; it's just the people that have made it so complicated.”
    Where to get it
  3. Operation paperclip

    Annie Jacobsen · at 17:39 · mentioned 2 times

    Discussed
    “In my research on Third Reich weapons for 'Operation Paperclip', because of course, we got a lot of those scientists after.”
    Where to get it
  4. Surprise, Kill, Vanish

    Annie Jacobsen · at 1:41:23 · mentioned 2 times

    Discussed
    “Later, I wrote a book about the CIA's paramilitary, "Surprise, Kill, Vanish."”
    Where to get it
  5. First Platoon

    Annie Jacobsen · at 17:33

    Discussed
    “But the real problem, what has happened, and I write about this in my book, 'First Platoon', which is about a group of young soldiers who goes to Afghanistan and unwittingly becomes part of the Defense Department’s biome efforts to capture biometrics on 85% of the population of Afghanistan.”
    Where to get it
  6. Phenomena

    Annie Jacobsen · at 1:36:12

    Discussed
    “You've written, like you said, the book "Phenomena" on the secret history of the US government's investigations into extrasensory perception and psychokinesis.”
    Where to get it
  7. The Cold and the Dark

    Paul R. Ehrlich, Carl Sagan, Donald Kennedy, Walter Orr Roberts · at 1:43:30

    Discussed
    “Carl Sagan talked about that in this amazing book he wrote with two scientist colleagues called "The Cold and the Dark."”
    Where to get it