Episode · The Megyn Kelly Show · 2026-10-25
Megyn Kelly & Vivek Ramaswamy: books mentioned on The Megyn Kelly Show
A Second Look: Vivek Ramaswamy's Appearances on The Megyn Kelly Show
Megyn Kelly looks back at some of Vivek Ramaswamy's most memorable appearances on The Megyn Kely Show over the past five years in this "A Second Look" episode, as the former author and entrepreneur is in the news with his Ohio governor run. Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms: YouTube: https://www.
Megyn Kelly recommended Nation of Victims by Vivek Ramaswamy, and discussed Truths by Vivek Ramaswamy and Woke, Inc. by Vivek Ramaswamy.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Truths
Truths by Vivek Ramaswamy is a political book outlining a vision for the future of America First and the philosophical realignment of the nation.
Discussed“Let's talk about some of the other truths in truths, the future of America first. What's the point of writing this book, Vivek? What, why are you doing this now, defining the future of America first?”
Where to get it
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Nation of Victims
Nation of Victims by Vivek Ramaswamy investigates the rise of identity politics, the erosion of meritocracy, and the cultural shift toward grievance-based narratives in modern American society.
Recommended“Now, listen, Vivek has another book coming out. It's called Nation of Victims. It comes out later this year. You can preorder it right now and you should.”
Where to get it
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Woke, Inc.
Woke, Inc.
Discussed“so you you talk about these institutions in the first book and in this book and um and how sort of they've they've been taken over by people who are just committed to this victimhood”
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Other mentions in this episode (21) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“It's a centerpiece of the book that I'm putting out this week as well. We got to be honest. I'm a realist about this. You're always going to be taking a risk.”
“This plays right into one of the themes of truths, the future of America first, which is there are two genders. Right. And I think that what we see is when we talk about this across the country,”
“One of the things I'm trying to do both with this book and the way in which we're going to college campuses, like the one you aired before across the country is to be able to engage in an affable manner with people who deeply disagree with us, but without compromising at all on the core principle of standing for”
“And this also the book is called, you know, truth, the future of America first. I think this too is part of the importance of the future of America first is I don't care about the appearance of appearing pugilistic.”
“And that's one of the things that I learned from the campaign, but also one of the things that I'm trying to do through this book is you won't see me at the end of a, at the end of a hard fight, compromise on principle or policy in the end.”
“Tech entrepreneur and author of the book, Woke Inc., Vivek Ramaswamy, joins me now to explain how Elon Musk can liberate Twitter successfully. Welcome back to the show, Vivek.”
“So my basic thesis in the book is I actually pick up where I left off my last book Woke Inc which was about the curious merger of political and social agendas with corporate America's interests”
“So my basic thesis in the book is I actually pick up where I left off my last book Woke Inc which was about the curious merger of political and social agendas with corporate America's interests”
“So one way or another as I say in the book we see ourselves as victims of one another are an immutable agent on a tectonic plate of group identity a prisoner of whatever direction that tectonic plate moves”
“But it's very difficult to give up your status as a victim so there's a game theory problem here even I don't mean to be too philosophical about this but one of the cases I make in the book is Immanuel Kant actually talked about a paradox of fishermen”
“Jussie Smollett fake hate crime hoax that was dismissed as a conservative talking point actually in the first chapter of the book one of the things I detail is how many countless examples we have seen of these alleged hate crime hoaxes”
“So one of the things I discovered Megan is in the culture we live in right now it is very difficult to persuade someone of a point of view that they do not already hold so one of my methods that I try to bear in this book to accomplish that otherwise”
“This is part of the book where there I mean there are literally like seven examples of these back-to-back I mean this is not a one-off incident right there's just a small thing you bring that up”
“I mean that's that's the ultimately the case I make in the in the book is that look at the end of the day China actually believes in hiring based on merit”
“but at the end of the day we may be so far down the path that one of the things i predict in the book and this is part of when i trace the parts of roman history as well you know the optimistic part of this megan is that we often think about the fact that there was one”
“i mean there's 11 chapters in the book one of them is dedicated to conservative victimhood i think that you know the ratio is it is it asymmetric in the world the way that you that the way that exactly that you described i think absolutely it is”
“are we actually that much better off just mad without without laying out a path forward and so i made some cases for some provocative ideas in the book a revival of civic duty”
“a title of the book is entitled a theory of duty it's a play on john rawls's famous a theory of justice that was a north star for much of the liberal movement for much of the latter 20th century”
“we were carthage which i don't know not i didn't go to harvard so explain carthage and how we might be carthage instead of rome and china might be rome well so i draw an extended uh allegory in the book between the punic wars between between rome and carthage the two great empires of their day”
“and so i do spend some time going into the book into some detail on what's at stake i mean why does china care about invading taiwan it's not just about national pride”
“and at the end of the day we i said this before i'll say it again it may be necessity that compels us to actually uh that's actually get our act together to revive merit to revive that shared pursuit of excellence i hope that my book or or other speakers on this topic”


