Episode · The Tim Ferriss Show · 2025-09-16
Books mentioned on #827: Pablos Holman — One of The Scariest Hackers I’ve Ever Met
Pablos Holman is a hacker and inventor and the author of Deep Future: Creating Technology that Matters, the indispensable guide to deep tech. Previously, Pablos worked on spaceships at Blue Origin and helped build The Intellectual Ventures Lab to invent a wide variety of breakthroughs.
Books mentioned, in the order they came up
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Cryptonomicon
Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson is a sprawling, visionary novel that weaves together World War II codebreaking with a modern quest to build a secure, data-haven-backed cryptocurrency.
Discussed“I mean, when did Cryptonomicon come out? Which I love. 98. Okay. early. So, I was working on cryptocurrency in 98 when when cryptoicon came out.”
Where to get it
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The Art of Deception
Discussed“I remember ages ago when it when it first came out, someone recommended that I read Kevin Mitnik's The Art of Deception.”
Where to get it
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Breakneck
Breakneck by Dan Wang is a non-fiction book that explores China's industrial strategy, state planning, and engineering-driven approach to engineering the future.
Discussed“There's a book called Breakneck. And I haven't yet read it, but one of my employees is reading it and recommended. He said it's an amazing page turner.”
Where to get it
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Deep Future
Deep Future by Pablos Holman explores cutting-edge technological innovations and futurism, focusing on the critical developments that will shape human civilization and address global challenges.
Recommended“And if people are interested in the book, which I have in my backpack right now, it's deep future creating technology that matters.”
Where to get it
Other mentions in this episode (1) — ad reads, self-promotion and passing references, never counted
“So, I'm trying to pull from your book, which I've been devouring. All right. Deep future, creating technology that matters.”