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Episode · The Shawn Ryan Show · 2025-09-04

Shawn Ryan & Nathan Apffel: books mentioned on The Shawn Ryan Show #233

#233 Nathan Apffel - Inside the Dark World of Megachurches and Corrupt Pastors

3 books · With Nathan Apffel · Listen · Watch on YouTube

Nathan Apffel is a Christian, filmmaker, entrepreneur, and director of The Religion Business, a multi-part docuseries that exposes the financial practices and lack of accountability in Western religion, particularly Christianity.

Shawn Ryan discussed The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel and Imagine Heaven by John Burke. Nathan Apffel discussed The wisdom of psychopaths by Kevin Dutton.

Books mentioned, in the order they came up

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  1. The Case for Christ

    Lee Strobel · at 46:37

    The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel is a popular apologetics book documenting an investigative journalist's journey to examine the historical and legal evidence for the resurrection of Jesus.

    Discussed
    “my good friend Lee Stroble wrote The Case for Christ. I mean, him John Burke wrote Imagine Heaven. I mean, I love these guys, you know,”
    Shawn Ryan #233 Nathan Apffel - Inside the Dark World of Megachurches and Corrupt… 2025-09-04 Listen at 46:37
    Where to get it
    Listen free with an Audible trialAmazon

  2. Imagine Heaven

    John Burke · at 46:42

    Imagine Heaven by John Burke is a spiritual book that examines near-death experiences and investigates what happens after death through the accounts of individuals who survived clinical death.

    Discussed
    “The Case for Christ. I mean, him John Burke wrote Imagine Heaven. I mean, I love these guys, you know, and and uh and I think I”
    Shawn Ryan #233 Nathan Apffel - Inside the Dark World of Megachurches and Corrupt… 2025-09-04 Listen at 46:42
    Where to get it
    Listen free with an Audible trialAmazon

  3. The wisdom of psychopaths

    Kevin Dutton · at 57:49

    The Wisdom of Psychopaths by Kevin Dutton is a fascinating exploration of psychopathic traits, examining how characteristics typically associated with extreme deviance can also manifest as adaptive strengths in high-achieving professions like business, law enforcement, and surgery.

    Discussed
    “So there's a book called um the wisdom of psychopaths and it talks about psychopathic tendencies and it's a character type.”
    Nathan Apffel #233 Nathan Apffel - Inside the Dark World of Megachurches and Corrupt… 2025-09-04 Listen at 57:49
    Where to get it
    Listen free with an Audible trialAmazon
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