Book · 2021 · Computers
The Genius Makers
Google, Facebook, Elon Musk, and the Race to Artificial Intelligence
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So, Jeff Hinton actually runs the auction from his hotel room at the Hera's Casino in Lake Tahoe. Oh my god, amazing. So, the bids all come in and we got to thank Cade Mets, the author of Genius Makers, great book on the whole history of AI that we're actually going to reference a lot in this episode.
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- References the author3
- Discusses AI history“history of AI”2
The best things said about it
A few months earlier, Larry Pageige held a strategy meeting on an island in the South Pacific in Cade Mets's book, It's an Undisclosed Island.
To quote from an amazing Wired article at the time by Cade Mets, who would later write Genius Makers, right?
You can find books by Gary Kasparov, Kai-Fu Lee, and Cade Metz, who we already mentioned earlier on the show who wrote the amazing Wired article.
It's an enormous having written the book genius makers the mavericks have brought ai to ai to google facebook in the world do you feel that this bring you back to the ai rationalists do you where did you fall personally on the belief.
Jason Calacanis This Week in Startups · Mar 2021 4 people who brought it up
Why people recommend it
The Genius Makers by Cade Metz is a comprehensive history of artificial intelligence that chronicles the maverick researchers who brought deep learning to major tech companies like Google and Facebook. David Rosenthal heavily referenced the book on Acquired while breaking down the corporate history of Google and the acquisition strategies behind modern machine learning breakthroughs. Rosenthal used Metz's reporting to detail key historical moments, such as Jeff Hinton running an auction from a hotel room in Lake Tahoe and Larry Page holding secretive strategy meetings on remote islands. Ben Gilbert also recommended the book through podcast reading lists associated with the show's tech deep dives. Additionally, Cade Metz appeared as a guest on This Week in Startups, where Jason Calacanis interviewed him about the origins of the project. Metz shared that his reporting began after traveling to Seoul, South Korea, in 2016 to cover the historic AlphaGo match. The conversation on the podcast also touched upon ethical concerns, recommendation algorithms, and the philosophical divide among AI rationalists regarding the potential risks of advanced technology.
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David Rosenthal A few months earlier, Larry Pageige held a strategy meeting on an island in the South Pacific in Cade Mets'… 3
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“So, Jeff Hinton actually runs the auction from his hotel room at the Hera's Casino in Lake Tahoe. Oh my god, amazing. So, the bids all come in and we got to thank Cade Mets, the author of Genius Makers, great book on the whole history of AI that we're actually going to reference a lot in this episode.”
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“A few months earlier, Larry Pageige held a strategy meeting on an island in the South Pacific in Cade Mets's book, It's an Undisclosed Island.”
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“To quote from an amazing Wired article at the time by Cade Mets, who would later write Genius Makers, right?”
Ben Gilbert So if you go to blinkist.com/Nvidia you can find books by Gary Kasparov, Kai-Fu Lee, and Cade Metz, who we… 1
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“So if you go to blinkist.com/Nvidia you can find books by Gary Kasparov, Kai-Fu Lee, and Cade Metz, who we already mentioned earlier on the show who wrote the amazing Wired article.”
Jason Calacanis because now there's dovetails with your new book um who's fault is it that a perf uh perfectly reasonable s… 3
Discussed
“because now there's dovetails with your new book um who's fault is it that a perf uh perfectly reasonable sam harris who is incredibly intellectual incredibly fair-minded and rational then leads to ben shapiro who then leads to infowars”
Discussed
“and they were based out of europe right they were in london and there were like a dozen academics and i remember elon told me he had funded them and then larry page funded them and they got to some crossroads i don't know if you cover this in the book”
Discussed
“it's an enormous having written the book genius makers the mavericks have brought ai to ai to google facebook in the world do you feel that this bring you back to the ai rationalists do you where did you fall personally on the belief”
Cade Metz what gave you the idea for the book was there like a moment in time a spark that made you feel you had to w… 1
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“what gave you the idea for the book was there like a moment in time a spark that made you feel you had to write this book the the book i started work on it when i came back uh from seoul south korea i traveled to to seoul in 2016”
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“kade metz is back on the program because he's got a new book out he's got a new book out”
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“sure facebook is relatively simple when it comes when you know you know relative to a lot of this ai stuff that i talk about in my book and how that has evolved and how it will continue to evolve and how it could exacerbate a lot of these these problems we're now dealing with and uh i forgot to”
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“it's based on all the misinformation that gets spread and you know what's really uh interesting um and this you know is only just part of what my book gets into is you know these ai technologies that are making it easier and easier and easier for machines to generate the misinformation”
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“you know it's it's a really interesting thing that you bring up and like there's a there's a prime example of this in the book as well this guy jeff hinton i talked about right he had this idea that would it was one of the few on earth who really nurtured this idea”
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“and this is a real thread throughout the book like i said it was academics like jeff hinton you know who worked on these ideas and then they were sucked into industry and what that meant was is they brought an academic sensibility to this work”
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“what concerns do you have well i i learned a whole lot in writing this book and one of the things i alluded to earlier is that you know china was involved in this race from the beginning”
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“uh they have it folks 90 minutes with kade mets go by genius makers the mavericks brought ai to google facebook in the world uh and thanks you've been on the pod”