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Every book Scott Payne recommended on podcasts
Scott Payne appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience to discuss serious and dangerous elements within extremist movements, drawing on detailed research and historical context. During the episode, Payne discussed several notable books that illuminate the mechanics and ideologies of criminal and radical factions. He examined "Donnie Brasco: Unfinished Business" by Joe Pistone, highlighting the famous undercover work of Pistone alongside clinical psychologist Steve Ban in creating the FBI's undercover safeguard process. Payne also engaged in an in-depth discussion about "Siege" by James Mason, describing it as a bizarre compilation of articles and interviews by a longtime white supremacist. He pointed to "Siege" as a foundational text and key influence for accelerationist white supremacist groups like Atomwaffen, carefully explaining how these modern extremist factions differ fundamentally from older stereotypes of white supremacy that rely on hoods, robes, and burning crosses. Through these recommendations and discussions, Payne provided listeners with a stark look at the inner workings of law enforcement infiltration and the dark ideologies driving contemporary fringe groups.
Books recommended by Scott Payne
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Donnie Brasco: Unfinished Business
Discussed“Um, but the safeguard process was created by Joe Pone, Donnie Brasco. It was created by Joe and a and a former agent who was back his background was a clinical psychologist, Steve Ban.”
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Siege
Discussed“there's a book out there called siege written by James Mason longtime white supremacist it's a weird book it's basically articles and interviews all just shoved together.”
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Books Scott Payne wrote
Appearances
| Episode | Podcast | Date | Books |
|---|---|---|---|
| #2295 - Scott Payne | The Joe Rogan Experience | 2025-03-27 | 3 |
Other mentions (7: passing, ad reads, own books)
“He graciously he did a blurb on the book, too.”
“And then uh and then I landed an undercover, which I don't really talk about in the book cuz it's classified.”
“In the book, I make a a joke uh cuz I call them a gentleman's club, but then I say that's an oxymoron cuz like everyone I've been in, there's not a lot of gentlemen in there”
“I go into great detail in the book, but I for three years I had been doing too much.”
“And uh again, way more detail in the book, but the thing that the thing that happened to me was”
“Tell everybody the book. Uh the book is Codeename Pailhorse. Uh and it's how I went undercover to expose America's Nazis.”
“Uh the book is Codeename Pailhorse. Uh and it's how I went undercover to expose America’s Nazis. Uh but it's not just white supremacy. It's got the outlaws. It's got personal stuff, the life.”