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Every book Carol Swain recommended on podcasts
Key facts
- Carol Swain has recommended or discussed 3 books on podcasts, as of February 11, 2025.
- Carol Swain has talked about books on 2 podcasts, as of February 11, 2025.
- Those books came up in 3 episodes, as of February 11, 2025.
- The 3 books Carol Swain has mentioned in the most episodes, as of February 11, 2025: Up From Slavery, Black Faces, Black Interests and The shape of the river.
- The latest episode with a book mention from Carol Swain aired on February 11, 2025.
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Across 2 podcasts. Every show Carol Swain appears on, in one place, not just one.
Carol Swain appeared on multiple podcast episodes, including The Megyn Kelly Show and The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, to discuss academic controversies, history, and her own literary work. On The Megyn Kelly Show, Swain discussed her award-winning first book, Black Faces, Black Interests: The Representation of African-Americans in Congress, noting that it had been plagiarized. During her appearance on The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, she discussed the broader academic landscape, referencing William G. Bowen and Derek Bok's book The Shape of the River as a turning point when she began speaking out against traditional affirmative action in favor of race-neutral, class-based policies. Additionally, Swain frequently referenced Booker T. Washington's autobiography, Up From Slavery, mentioning it both as a formative reading experience from her childhood and as a historical work that modern progressives have unfairly dismissed or marginalized. Across these podcast discussions, Swain drew upon her background in political science and her published works to critique prevailing academic narratives, examine the evolution of civil rights discourse, and defend her perspectives on race, education, and American history.
Books Carol Swain recommended or discussed
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Up From Slavery
Discussed“I'm sure you have heard or you're familiar with the fact that there are progressives who have labeled Booker T. Washington's Up from Slavery as a fiction, a work of fiction. That's That's horrible.”
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Black Faces, Black Interests
Discussed“my prize winning first book Black Faces black interest the representation of African-Americans in Congress was the book that was plagarized”
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The shape of the river
Discussed“You were asking questions; for me, I think I fell out of favor when Bowen and Bok published "The Shape of the River" and I started talking about affirmative action. I wrote an op-ed piece favoring class-based, race-neutral affirmative action; that was not what the elites wanted and marked part of the beginning of the end for me.”
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Other mentions (5: passing, ad reads, own books)
“I earned early tenure on the basis of my book Black Faces, Black Interests, the representation of African Americans in Congress. It was my first book. It's the one that won three national prizes, was cited by the Supreme Court.”
“i have you know this book black eye for america uh her critical race theory is burning down the house”
“and so my book uh blackout for america it has those two chapters on how to fight back”
“it's black eye for america how critical race theory is burning down the house and it was written for the american people and it explains what critical race theory is where it came from how it manifests itself and had runs counter to christianity our civil rights laws our constitution and best of all it has two chapters on how”
“when i was at princeton i was a democrat and i wrote a book called black faces black interest representation of african americans in congress and it argued that political party was more important than the race of the representatives as long as blacks tell the views they did that best be represented by democrats”


