Book · 2025 · Self-Help
The Next Conversation
Argue Less, Talk More
The Next Conversation by Jefferson Fisher has been mentioned in 5 episodes across 4 podcasts (4 episodes recommend it and 1 episode discusses it), through . Most frequently brought up by Steven Bartlett (2 episodes), Dave Ramsey (1 episode) and Dr John Delony (1 episode) on The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett (2 episodes), The Dr. John Delony Show (1 episode) and The Mel Robbins Podcast (1 episode).
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It's the Atomic Habits for communication and it breaks it down.
Questions about The Next Conversation by Jefferson Fisher
Who recommends The Next Conversation by Jefferson Fisher on podcasts?
Steven Bartlett (1 episode), Dave Ramsey (1 episode), Dr John Delony (1 episode) and Mel Robbins (1 episode) have recommended The Next Conversation by Jefferson Fisher on podcasts. In all, 5 people brought it up across 4 podcasts (4 people recommended it).
Which podcasts mention The Next Conversation the most?
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett (2 episodes), The Dr. John Delony Show (1 episode), The Mel Robbins Podcast (1 episode) and The Ramsey Show (1 episode).
Is The Next Conversation recommended, or only discussed?
The Next Conversation by Jefferson Fisher was recommended in 4 episodes and discussed without a recommendation in 1 episode, as of 2025-12-22.
What do people say about The Next Conversation?
Dr John Delony on The Dr. John Delony Show (2025-03-31): "It's the Atomic Habits for communication and it breaks it down."
When was The Next Conversation last mentioned on a podcast?
The Next Conversation by Jefferson Fisher was last discussed on The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett by Steven Bartlett on 2025-12-22.
What they say about it
- Argue less and talk more“Argue Less Talk More”3
- Highly recommends the book2
The best things said about it
He has a brand new book coming out called The Next Conversation. It's an outstanding, outstanding book. How to argue less and talk more.
This may be one of the top three or four countercultural books I've ever read.
I highly highly recommend anybody who relates or resonates with the com conversation we've had today to go and get this book because there's very very few like it that approach it from the perspective that you have.
What I love about your work and the reason why I'm so excited about your book is because it is really unsettling to have to deal with somebody that is a difficult personality.
On page 166 of your book The Next Conversation, you say when you hear someone say something rude or insulting understand that they're wanting something from you.
In the book I set out this framework of how I teach communication is that when you say things you're going to say it first with control and you're going to say it with confidence and you're going to say it to connect.
Where and when it comes up
Most episodes, by podcast
5 people who brought it up
Why people recommend it
The Next Conversation by Jefferson Fisher is a guide to improving interpersonal communication, resolving conflict, and arguing less while talking more. The book received widespread praise across multiple podcasts. On The Dr. John Delony Show, Dr. John Delony introduced the book as outstanding, calling it one of the top three or four countercultural books he had ever read and comparing it to atomic habits for communication. Delony urged listeners to pick it up, while also discussing a unique visual diagram included in the text during an interview with the author. On The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett, host Steven Bartlett asked Fisher why he wanted to write a book about getting what you want from conversations, and later strongly recommended it to anyone who resonated with their discussion. On The Mel Robbins Podcast, Mel Robbins expressed her excitement for the book in relation to navigating difficult personalities and finding peace and power. Finally, on The Ramsey Show, Dave Ramsey praised the new book and directed listeners to Fisher's social media platforms following their conversation.
Every mention
Steven Bartlett I highly highly recommend anybody who relates or resonates with the com conversation we've had today to go… 2
“So, why did you think it was important to write a book about conversation talking, getting what you want from the conversations we have with people we care about?”
“You've written the book on conversation argue Less Talk More”
“I've got this graph I think it's from taken from your book okay which shows the sort of Middle Ground of yeah I'll put it on the screen for anyone that can't see but respecting others sort of versus respecting yourself”
“on page 166 of your book the next conversation you say when you hear someone say something rude or insulting understand that they're wanting something from you”
“I highly highly recommend anybody who relates or resonates with the com conversation we've had today to go and get this book because there's very very few like it that approach it from the perspective that you have”
Dave Ramsey I love it man the new book is the next conversation argue Less Talk More you can follow him on Jefferson Fi… 1
“I love it man the new book is the next conversation argue Less Talk More you can follow him on Jefferson Fisher on Instagram”
Dr John Delony and he has a brand new book coming out called the next conversation it's an outstanding outstanding book um… 1
“and he has a brand new book coming out called the next conversation it's an outstanding outstanding book um How to Argue less and talk more”
“you've got a great um picture in this book that I'd never seen before and I love the way it looks and it has it's about something different”
“this may be one of the top three or four countercultural books I've ever read oh that's awesome okay here's what I mean about that”
“you write this great book you right on page four if you're inclined to believe that I learned my communication skills in law school don't”
“please go pick this book up it truly is exceptional it's the atomic habits for communication and it breaks it down”
Mel Robbins what I love about your work and the reason why I'm so excited about your book is because it is really unset… 1
“what I love about your work and the reason why I'm so excited about your book is because it is really unsettling to have to deal with somebody that is a difficult personality”
Jefferson Fisher and that's why in the book I set out this framework of how I teach communication is that when you say thing… 1
“and that's why in the book I set out this framework of how I teach communication is that when you say things you're going to say it first with control and you're going to say it with confidence and you're going to say it to connect”
Other mentions (5: passing, ad reads, own books)
“The reason why I wrote that book and how that book applies is I took a lot of the lessons that I teach every one of my clients and put them in that book because I'm sitting there preparing them for cross-examination and realizing, oh, wait, they are deathly afraid of the conflict that they're in.”
“tell me about it how it come about it came about I I never thought John I never thought I'd ever write a book of course ever”
“you've written the book on conversation argue Less Talk More why does it matter to the average person listening now that's just clicked on this conversation”
“and congratulations on your new book the next conversation argue Less Talk More thank you very much I'm uh very proud of it very excited to to help a lot of people”
“the new book is the next conversation argue Less Talk More”