The Next Apocalypse

“Chris Begley, author of The Next Apocalypse: The Art and Science of Survival. Chris, welcome to the show. Thank you, Robert. Now, Chris, before we get into the meat of our discussion”

“And one of the things I find really interesting, the the the the basic thrust of your book is that the way in which we think about civilizations falling or collapsing or or how however you you know, the ways in which folks tend to discuss that”

“Um there's some cases as as you go into the book. Um and I'm I'm I I'm interested in that because you're kind of coming at from a a very rigorous historical standpoint in this book.”

“Now, one of the things that I really found fascinating in your book and that that kind of made me feel a little bit um bad is I you know I've I've spent a lot of time thinking about the what happened what was done to and what also just kind of happened as a result of the way diseases”

“There was a remarkable moment in the book and I I think it was from when you were in Honduras where you you talk about you're finding pottery shirts and they have these specific kind of markings on them from I don't know like a thousand years ago or so”

“Chris Begley, underwater archaeologist, author of The Next Apocalypse: The Art of Science and Survival.”

“again, please do check out The Next Apocalypse: The Art and Science of Survival by Chris Begley.”

“Well, Chris, I think that's that's most of what I wanted to get into in this conversation. And I'm wondering before we kind of close out because you you are both the author of this book, The Next Apocalypse, which is I think a fascinating way of looking at the idea of things falling falling apart”

“Uh, for those of you listening at home again, please do check out The Next Apocalypse: The Art and Science of Survival by Chris Begley.”

“I I've been reading this very good book uh just started last night and I think we're going to have the author on the show soon uh Chris Begley. He's an underwater archaeologist and he wrote a book called The Next Apocalypse that's about collapses throughout history and how they actually differ from the popular conceptions of them.”

“What was the name of the book that you were talking about just now? It's called The Next Apocalypse and it's it's very good so far. Um Chris Begley is the author.”

“Honduras was my focus as you saw in the book.”

“Uh some things that I intended to do or ways that I'd hoped to interact with folks in the course of interviewing people for the book or writing it, you know, wasn't going to be possible.”

“I mean because ultimately, you know, what's the difference between two weeks or two months worth of food, right? You know, it's going to be gone. And, you know, you have to uh come back. You know, one of the things in in researching uh for this for this book”

“And you know, one of the things I talk about in in in my book are ideas of, you know, diversity and inclusion, which we talk about in certain ways now. And often I think unfortunately it's talked about as if it's done to benefit the people that are marginalized and left out uh only.”

“I've been reading this very good book uh just started last night and I think we're going to have the author on the show soon uh Chris Begley. He's an underwater archaeologist and he wrote a book called The Next Apocalypse that's about collapses throughout history and how they actually differ from the popular conceptions of them.”