Book · 1995 · History
The Hidden History of the Vietnam War
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There's a great book uh John Norris Hidden War that's all about that. He's a game warden who had to find out about this the hard way and then became part of a tactical unit where they would go in and and fight the cartels in the woods.
Joe Rogan · The Joe Rogan Experience · Aug 2025 Listen at 2:36:44 What they say about it
- Game warden author“he started off his career as a game warden”9
- Author appeared on podcast“he came on the podcast to discuss it”5
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He wrote a book called Hidden War. Yeah. And it was all about he was a game warden and he became a part of a tactical crew that was busting cartel members who were heavily armed growing marijuana in national forests.
Joe Rogan The Joe Rogan Experience · Apr 2025 So there was a man named John Norris who we had on the podcast who uh wrote a book called hidden Wars and he was a game warden and in California I listened to that book it was really good really interesting.
Joe Rogan The Joe Rogan Experience · Feb 2023 I had a guy named John Norris who wrote a book called the hidden war and the book is all about how he was game warden and during his normal duties like looking for you know making sure that people aren't over fishing or hunting without a license that kind of stuff they started finding these cartel grow-ops.
Joe Rogan The Joe Rogan Experience · Oct 2019 Where and when it comes up
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The Hidden History of the Vietnam War by John Prados is a detailed historical examination of military strategy and political decisions during the Vietnam conflict. The book's title has frequently surfaced in podcast conversations, though hosts often conflate it with other works or subjects. On several episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan enthusiastically recommended a book titled Hidden War—frequently attributing it to a guest named John Norris rather than John Prados—which actually details the real-life experiences of a game warden fighting heavily armed drug cartels growing marijuana in national forests. This same anecdote and book title were also discussed by podcast guests such as Dave Smith, Chamath Palihapitiya, and Luis J. Gomez across various episodes. While John Prados's actual historical work focuses on military history and Vietnam strategy, the conversational crossover on high-profile shows has led to widespread podcast chatter regarding a book sharing a nearly identical name about wildlife enforcement and cartel operations in state and national parks. These recurring mentions highlight how specific book titles circulate within long-form podcast interviews, sometimes bridging entirely separate genres of historical analysis and modern true-crime storytelling for audiences.
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Joe Rogan There's a great book uh John Norris Hidden War that's all about that. He's a game warden who had to find ou… 7
“There's a great book uh John Norris Hidden War that's all about that. He's a game warden who had to find out about this the hard way and then became part of a tactical unit where they would go in and and fight the cartels in the woods.”
“There's a guy named John Norris who's been on the podcast before, who was a game warden. He wrote a book called Hidden War.”
“He wrote a book called Hidden War. Yeah. And it was all about he was a game warden and he became a part of a tactical crew that was busting cartel members who were heavily armed growing marijuana in national forests.”
“he details it he's got this book called hidden Wars and so they became like a Tactical Unit”
“so there was a man named John Norris who we had on the podcast who uh wrote a book called hidden Wars and he was a game warden and in California I listened to that book it was really good really interesting”
“we had a guy named John Norris on the podcast and he wrote a book called hidden war and he started off his career as a game warden”
“I had a guy named John Norris who wrote a book called the hidden war and the book is all about how he was game warden and during his normal duties like looking for you know making sure that people aren't over fishing or hunting without a license that kind of stuff they started finding these cartel grow-ops”
Chamath Palihapitiya my friend John nor he wrote a book called The Hidden war and he was a fish and game officer 1
“my friend John nor he wrote a book called The Hidden war and he was a fish and game officer”
Dave Smith yeah there's a guy named John Norris he wrote a book called hidden war and he came on the podcast to discus… 1
“yeah there's a guy named John Norris he wrote a book called hidden war and he came on the podcast to discuss it”
Kyle Kulinski well I had the author of hidden war on the podcast his name is John Norris and John Norris he got a job ini… 1
“well I had the author of hidden war on the podcast his name is John Norris and John Norris he got a job initially as a game warden because you know he grew up in the outdoors and fishing and hunting and things like that”
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“the title of the new book is aptly named a hid more because so many people don't realize this is going on”
“and I really go into this in hid more Edition one and then I update with the latest one that just dropped Edition two that you've got a copy of”
“and that hidden War goes into in depth in 2013 when we formed that team”
“in some color pictures in in the new editions of hid more that you've got that go into just one of these growth sites”
“the second printing second edition of hidden War just dropped you you got one of the first copies I did yeah it's got updated information in it to take us into what some of what we discussed and it's on Amazon in print copy Kindle Audible”
“so you wrote war in the woods and then hidden war is the new one yeah hidden wars the brand new one that just came out and they're basically ten years apart”
“head moore's a new one more in the woods is the first one on amazon you can also get updates on my website just john norris.com and it's n-o-r-e-s”