Book · 2002 · Political Science
The Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu
Humanitarian Despotism and the Conditions of Modern Tyranny
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The Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu by Maurice Joly is an 1864 political satire written by a French author that later served as a primary literary predecessor and source of plagiarism for the notorious antisemitic text, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The book was discussed across different podcast episodes, including on the Lex Fridman Podcast in April 2024 and on Behind the Bastards in April 2021. On the Lex Fridman Podcast, Bassem Youssef noted that the protocols were plagiarized from a satirical play and conversation styled between Machiavelli and Montesquieu. Similarly, on Behind the Bastards, Robert Evans read from the Jewish Virtual Library to describe Joly's pamphlet as the direct predecessor to the protocols, detailing its origins as a satire published in 1864. Both speakers utilized Joly's work to trace the historical lineage of fabricated conspiracy literature and expose its literary sources.
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Bassem Youssef It was plagiarized from a satirical play called "Conversation in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu." 1
“It was plagiarized from a satirical play called "Conversation in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu."”
Robert Evans I'm going to I'm going to read again from the Jewish virtual library here. Quote, the direct predecessor of… 1
“I'm going to I'm going to read again from the Jewish virtual library here. Quote, the direct predecessor of the protocols can be found in the pamphlet dialogues in hell between Makaveli and Montescu published by the non-Jewish French satist Maurice Jolie in 1864.”




