Exit Interview

“She's a 12-year Amazon veteran and the author of Exit Interview: The Life and Death of My Ambitious Career. It's out this week. Definitely encourage you to pick it up. I enjoyed reading it very much.”

“There's so many things I want to talk to you about uh regarding this, but the first is that I think you pretty clearly lay this out inside your book that now obviously and we're going to talk about some of the positive parts of Amazon culture, but let's start with negative because it does seem like there there's um”

“I mean you had some amazing anecdotes that you put in in the book. Uh you were scheduled or you were talking about the concept of promotion. You go in for the meeting to talk about what's necessary for the promotion after having done seems like a great job”

“Um just the creation of Go. It's very fascinating. and they have um it seems like they're moving from like a please come shop at our just walk out store with this technology to licensing that technology and putting it into place inside other Amazon stores like Whole Foods.”

“You have some uh, you know, very interesting interactions with him in the book. Um, and including noting towards the end of the book that the Jeff Bezos that you met early on in your tenure had become just like super jacked”

“The book is Exit Interview: The Life and Death of My Ambitious Career. You can pick it up in bookstores and on Amazon today.”

“And it was a formative event for me. Like it was just seismic. And I I've thought, will he read this book and will he remember that? And I don't think he'll remember it. I think if he reads it and recognizes himself, he'll be like, "Huh?"”

“You know, I also have an addictive personality. I write about the alcoholism that ran in parallel to my Amazon career and I do think it touched something in me like there's there's something that those two things have something in common”

“I'm so embarrassed because I have a a line in my book talking about how like Bezos views life as you know basically self-actualizing and not riding around in a yacht and then basically book goes out shortly afterwards he quits gets the yacht.”