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Book · 2014 · History

Brave Men, Dark Waters

The Untold Story of the Navy SEALs

by Orr Kelly · Recommended by 1 person on 1 podcast

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In Brave Men, Dark Waters, O'Kelly describes Marcinko's team as showing up to areas that stored nuclear weapons, quote, "dressed in scroungy clothes, unshaven and with long hair" and that they spent several days rummaging about through which they were never challenged.
Robert Evans · Behind the Bastards · Jul 2026

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Had SEAL Team Six not been so eager to show off its skills in a real war. That's from Brave Men Dark Waters.
Robert Evans Behind the Bastards · Jul 2026
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At one point they hired a truck, backed it up to the door of Team Six headquarters and carted away the team records, about 50 boxes of them.
Robert Evans Behind the Bastards · Jul 2026
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He had a way with people that permitted him to get away with behavior that as one friend said would get me killed.
Robert Evans Behind the Bastards · Jul 2026
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Marcinko was armed with a PRI-1, priority one, that permitted him to take the men and equipment he needed to from other commands.
Robert Evans Behind the Bastards · Jul 2026
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Some of the guys who served with Marcinko would later claim that as a second-class radio man, he bragged that he would one day be the chief of naval operations.
Robert Evans Behind the Bastards · Jul 2026

Why people recommend it

Brave Men, Dark Waters by Orr Kelly is a military history book that chronicles the origins, evolution, and early operations of the United States Navy SEALs. The book was utilized extensively by Robert Evans as a primary reference source across multiple episodes of Behind the Bastards detailing the history of SEAL Team Six and its founder, Richard Marcinko. Evans cited the author to illustrate Marcinko's erratic peacetime behavior, his ability to secure priority command resources, and the unorthodox methods his teams employed, such as staging unchallanged security tests at nuclear weapons storage facilities while dressed in disheveled civilian attire. Furthermore, Evans referenced the book to explain the logistical realities behind specific missions, such as the unit's insistence on parachuting into water during the Grenada invasion to showcase their combat capabilities. The text also provided critical historical context regarding the aftermath of their operations, including accounts of authorities carting away dozens of boxes containing team records during investigations. Through these detailed citations, Kelly's work served as an essential historical backbone for examining the unchecked authority and subculture surrounding the formation of America's most elite maritime counter-terrorism units.

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Robert Evans had SEAL Team Six not been so eager to show off its skills in a real war. That's from Brave Men Dark Waters. 6
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“had SEAL Team Six not been so eager to show off its skills in a real war. That's from Brave Men Dark Waters.”
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“From the book Brave Men, Dark Waters, quote, "At one point they hired a truck, backed it up to the door of Team Six headquarters and carted away the team records, about 50 boxes of them.”
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“Per the book Brave Men, Dark Waters, quote, "He had a way with people that permitted him to get away with behavior that as one friend said would get me killed."”
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“In the book Brave Men, Dark Waters, Orr Kelly writes that Marcinko was armed with a PRI-1, priority one, that permitted him to take the men and equipment he needed to from other commands.”
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“In Brave Men, Dark Waters, O'Kelly describes Marcinko's team as showing up to areas that stored nuclear weapons, quote, "dressed in scroungy clothes, unshaven and with long hair" and that they spent several days rummaging about through which they were never challenged.”
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“In the book Brave Men, Dark Waters, Orr Kelly writes that some of the guys who served with Marcinko would later claim that as a second-class radio man, he bragged that he would one day be the chief of naval operations.”

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